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Remember, in 2019 you can be sex positive, but you must not have fun or enjoy life in any way; especially if it involves women using their agency and natural gi

Remember, in 2019 you can be sex positive, but you must not have fun or enjoy life in any way; especially if it involves women using their agency and natural gifts to make money. No attractive people who are not experts allowed at your booth. You can only profit off of the approved set of genetic lottery traits.

okcando 7y ago
Don't be a spoil-sport. Sex positivity is all about everyone having fun---you, the babe, and everyone else in your sex-heap of consenting adults with varied preferences, fetishes, and body types.
undoware 7y ago
This point could have been phrased better, but I concur. This just eliminated a solid gig for a whole lot of women. Unbanning sex toys was a big step forward, but creating morality bylaws will inevitably result in, eg, women engineers (like me) being potentially harrassed for showing "unacceptable" skin. We have been here many times before. Rules that mandate appearance requirements for women in the name of protecting women in general inevitably hurt some women in particular, and create a schism between women who can make money with their noodles and women who make money with, ahem, various other assets. Banning making money by being attractive amounts to yet another wealth transfer away from vulnerable, often marginalized, women. I stand with sex workers, and booth babes are just that.
- Fjolsvith 7y ago
  The booth babes should set up a picket line outside to protest their plight.
- gamblor956 7y ago
  I stand with sex workers, and booth babes are just that. Booth babes are not sex workers. They are generally actresses or models. The fact that people think they are sex workers is one of the reasons for banning them.
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  - polotics 7y ago
    I propose a terminology compromise: booth babes are sex-appeal workers.
  - dTal 7y ago
    I'd say they are, by any definition of "sex worker" that includes strippers. Their job is to attract (male, heterosexual) attention using visual sex appeal. They usually wear revealing clothes and frequently behave provocatively. It's not especially different from what a stripper does. Of course, there's a whole continuum here - you could argue that a flouncy woman whose job is to turn over tiles on a game show (wordlessly, naturally) is also a sex worker. Rule of thumb - could an ugly woman get the job? If not, it's sex work. Of course, people should have every right to work in this way. But just because I don't judge a woman for being a stripper doesn't mean I wouldn't judge my employer for hiring one. It's unprofessional.
    - gamblor956 7y ago
      Booth babes are not strippers. Yes, they usually wear revealing clothing and may behave provocatively but that's not part of the job description and their goal is to bring attention to their employer's product, not titillate passers-by. Of course, there's a whole continuum here - you could argue that a flouncy woman whose job is to turn over tiles on a game show (wordlessly, naturally) is also a sex worker. Rule of thumb - could an ugly woman get the job? If not, it's sex work. Sex work is not a continuum. Sex work involves (a) sex or (b) deliberate titillation, which is what strippers do by removing their clothes and miming sexual acts. Booth babes and Vanna White do neither. To claim that they are even remotely similar to sex workers is, quite frankly, insulting to women because you're suggesting quite loudly that the mere act of performing activities in tight clothing constitutes sex work. Comments like yours likening booth babes to strippers and sex workers is precisely why they are now banned from CES. Because too many people assume they are sex workers and not actresses/models who are just doing a marketing gig.
mcphage 7y ago
> Remember, in 2019 you can be sex positive Booth babes are not about sex positivity. Their presence does not correlate with sex positivity, and the people and industries that hire them are not sex positive industries.

okcando 7y ago

Don't be a spoil-sport. Sex positivity is all about everyone having fun---you, the babe, and everyone else in your sex-heap of consenting adults with varied preferences, fetishes, and body types.

undoware 7y ago

This point could have been phrased better, but I concur. This just eliminated a solid gig for a whole lot of women. Unbanning sex toys was a big step forward, but creating morality bylaws will inevitably result in, eg, women engineers (like me) being potentially harrassed for showing "unacceptable" skin. We have been here many times before. Rules that mandate appearance requirements for women in the name of protecting women in general inevitably hurt some women in particular, and create a schism between women who can make money with their noodles and women who make money with, ahem, various other assets. Banning making money by being attractive amounts to yet another wealth transfer away from vulnerable, often marginalized, women. I stand with sex workers, and booth babes are just that.

Fjolsvith 7y ago
The booth babes should set up a picket line outside to protest their plight.
gamblor956 7y ago
I stand with sex workers, and booth babes are just that. Booth babes are not sex workers. They are generally actresses or models. The fact that people think they are sex workers is one of the reasons for banning them.
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- polotics 7y ago
  I propose a terminology compromise: booth babes are sex-appeal workers.
- dTal 7y ago
  I'd say they are, by any definition of "sex worker" that includes strippers. Their job is to attract (male, heterosexual) attention using visual sex appeal. They usually wear revealing clothes and frequently behave provocatively. It's not especially different from what a stripper does. Of course, there's a whole continuum here - you could argue that a flouncy woman whose job is to turn over tiles on a game show (wordlessly, naturally) is also a sex worker. Rule of thumb - could an ugly woman get the job? If not, it's sex work. Of course, people should have every right to work in this way. But just because I don't judge a woman for being a stripper doesn't mean I wouldn't judge my employer for hiring one. It's unprofessional.
  - gamblor956 7y ago
    Booth babes are not strippers. Yes, they usually wear revealing clothing and may behave provocatively but that's not part of the job description and their goal is to bring attention to their employer's product, not titillate passers-by. Of course, there's a whole continuum here - you could argue that a flouncy woman whose job is to turn over tiles on a game show (wordlessly, naturally) is also a sex worker. Rule of thumb - could an ugly woman get the job? If not, it's sex work. Sex work is not a continuum. Sex work involves (a) sex or (b) deliberate titillation, which is what strippers do by removing their clothes and miming sexual acts. Booth babes and Vanna White do neither. To claim that they are even remotely similar to sex workers is, quite frankly, insulting to women because you're suggesting quite loudly that the mere act of performing activities in tight clothing constitutes sex work. Comments like yours likening booth babes to strippers and sex workers is precisely why they are now banned from CES. Because too many people assume they are sex workers and not actresses/models who are just doing a marketing gig.

mcphage 7y ago

> Remember, in 2019 you can be sex positive Booth babes are not about sex positivity. Their presence does not correlate with sex positivity, and the people and industries that hire them are not sex positive industries.