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Flagged? Sorry?
by pje 7y ago
Flagged? Sorry?
- inflatableDodo 7y agoAs soon as I saw it, I wondered how long hackernews could tolerate having Umberto Eco's guide to spotting fascism up on the front page. Is a touchy subject on here, for some peculiar reason. Now I wonder what that could possibly be.
- Gibbon1 7y agoYou can't talk about fascism on hackernews.
- inflatableDodo 7y agoOh but you can. It is on here all the time. What you are not allowed to do is point out that it is fascism.
- dang 7y agoWould you please stop posting unsubstantive comments and using HN for political battle? You've been doing that a lot, it's against both the guidelines and spirit of the site, and we eventually ban accounts that do it, regardless of which flavor they favor. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- dang 7y agoPlease don't post shallow dismissals here. That's in the site guidelines too: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html. Had you taken a few seconds to check it before posting a glib swipe, you'd have seen that it's obviously untrue: https://hn.algolia.com/?sort=byDate&dateRange=all&type=story&storyText=false&prefix&page=0&query=fascism%20points%3E30 https://hn.algolia.com/?sort=byDate&dateRange=all&type=story.... This very essay has had multiple discussions on HN in the past: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12173823 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12173823 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17413908 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17413908 And that was the full original essay, not the Utne Reader's digest version. The issue here is not "you can't talk about fascism". It's that the talk going around at the moment is predictable partisan flamewar and name-calling, with the F-word being the biggest tomato thrown. It's that which we don't want on HN. When thoughtfulness returns to the discussion, I'm sure users will stop flagging submissions like this.
- dang 7y agoThat is a smear of the community which counts as a shallow dismissal in the sense the site guidelines ask you not to do: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html. By insinuating that "hackernews" can't "tolerate" Umberto Eco because people here are fascist, you're trivializing the word and contributing to degrading the discussion. Under present circumstances there is little chance that a thread like this will be motivated by intellectual curiosity rather than partisan passion. Users who attempt to do the former get piled on with heapings of the latter. This very essay has been discussed with curiosity in the past (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12173823 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12173823), but I don't think that's why it's showing up now.
- souprock 7y agoIt's 100% pure politics, without any sort of connection to science or technology or startups or anything else that Hacker News is oriented towards. Worse yet, right in the opening section (just above the line) there is an inappropriate reference to current US politics. That's just throwing gasoline on the fire.
- dang 7y agoHN isn't oriented just to technology or startups. That's at the beginning of the site guidelines: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html. What it is oriented around is intellectual curiosity. There's little of that in current discourse about the word "fascism", and a lot of flame-throwing. It's the partisan frenzy of the moment. I imagine that's why users flagged this submission, despite Umberto Eco being perennially interesting and welcome here.