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Personally, I think this is good. It allows more people to make a living off of podcasting, and will hopefully keep Spotify from taking over the market. At min

by gen3 7y ago

Personally, I think this is good. It allows more people to make a living off of podcasting, and will hopefully keep Spotify from taking over the market. At minimum it helps the medium gain a wider adoption.

freedomben 7y ago
I promise I'm not trying to troll-bait you into saying something that will get you downvoted into oblivion. I'm really curious (please people don't downvote the response, assuming one comes). Why do you say: > and will hopefully keep Spotify from taking over the market. Why would that be such a bad thing in your opinion? Spotify seems like a clear underdog with a ton more vulnerability here. If anything I worry about the giants (like Apple) continuing to approach monopoly/gatekeeper status and closing those of us non-Apple users off from more and more. Somewhat off topic but I literally can't even text some of my friends anymore because I'm a "green bubble" or something like that, and it drives them nuts. I hate the emerging world of have and have-nots that are not for technical reasons at all.
- icebraining 7y ago
  I read it as meaning gen3 doesn't want any monopolists, rather than wanting Apple to take over instead of Spotify.
  - izacus 7y ago
    How does that work in a world where you need to buy a 1000$+ device just to access a piece of content?
    - gen3 7y ago
      As it currently stands, you can listen to podcasts on itunes online. If they decided to do "premium" content that the user would need to pay for, I would assume they would also make an android app, like they did with Apple Music. Your right, requiring a device to access content would be bad, but seeing that Apple is trying to transition to a service based model, I don't think access will that much of an issue.
- gen3 7y ago
  I'm happy to explain! From my point of view I see this as an injection of cash into the podcasting market. Personally, I don't see podcasts as being super mainstream (not on the same level as books / music / youtube). I think funding would allow more content to be produced, and hopefully allow for more people to enjoy podcasting. This would grow the market as a whole. Spotify has most of the music streaming market (more then double Apple Music's share). I do agree that exclusives are bad, but my assumption is that Apple will make an android podcasts app if they do start charging / require service exclusivity (Like they did with apple music). As for the iMessage issue... I don't really have a good solution for that. I know lots of people use Discord / Signal / GroupMe / Wire for group chats, since its more platform agnostic.
  - freedomben 7y ago
    > I know lots of people use Discord / Signal / GroupMe / Wire for group chats, since its more platform agnostic. Sadlol, I remember when SMS was platform agnostic :-( That is really good advice tho. I've started using Keybase, Mattermost, and Telegram quite a bit and while having multiple apps is a pain, it does address the various needs of groups pretty well.
    - gen3 7y ago
      It still is agnostic! We just have better alternatives now! I agree having a ton of apps is a pain. I have a folder dedicated to messaging apps.
      - freedomben 7y ago
        Very true, SMS feels super clunky and hobbled compared to many of the better alternatives we have. Thanks for the optimism :-)

by gen3 7y ago

freedomben 7y ago

I promise I'm not trying to troll-bait you into saying something that will get you downvoted into oblivion. I'm really curious (please people don't downvote the response, assuming one comes). Why do you say: > and will hopefully keep Spotify from taking over the market. Why would that be such a bad thing in your opinion? Spotify seems like a clear underdog with a ton more vulnerability here. If anything I worry about the giants (like Apple) continuing to approach monopoly/gatekeeper status and closing those of us non-Apple users off from more and more. Somewhat off topic but I literally can't even text some of my friends anymore because I'm a "green bubble" or something like that, and it drives them nuts. I hate the emerging world of have and have-nots that are not for technical reasons at all.

icebraining 7y ago
I read it as meaning gen3 doesn't want any monopolists, rather than wanting Apple to take over instead of Spotify.
- izacus 7y ago
  How does that work in a world where you need to buy a 1000$+ device just to access a piece of content?
  - gen3 7y ago
    As it currently stands, you can listen to podcasts on itunes online. If they decided to do "premium" content that the user would need to pay for, I would assume they would also make an android app, like they did with Apple Music. Your right, requiring a device to access content would be bad, but seeing that Apple is trying to transition to a service based model, I don't think access will that much of an issue.
gen3 7y ago
I'm happy to explain! From my point of view I see this as an injection of cash into the podcasting market. Personally, I don't see podcasts as being super mainstream (not on the same level as books / music / youtube). I think funding would allow more content to be produced, and hopefully allow for more people to enjoy podcasting. This would grow the market as a whole. Spotify has most of the music streaming market (more then double Apple Music's share). I do agree that exclusives are bad, but my assumption is that Apple will make an android podcasts app if they do start charging / require service exclusivity (Like they did with apple music). As for the iMessage issue... I don't really have a good solution for that. I know lots of people use Discord / Signal / GroupMe / Wire for group chats, since its more platform agnostic.
- freedomben 7y ago
  > I know lots of people use Discord / Signal / GroupMe / Wire for group chats, since its more platform agnostic. Sadlol, I remember when SMS was platform agnostic :-( That is really good advice tho. I've started using Keybase, Mattermost, and Telegram quite a bit and while having multiple apps is a pain, it does address the various needs of groups pretty well.
  - gen3 7y ago
    It still is agnostic! We just have better alternatives now! I agree having a ton of apps is a pain. I have a folder dedicated to messaging apps.
    - freedomben 7y ago
      Very true, SMS feels super clunky and hobbled compared to many of the better alternatives we have. Thanks for the optimism :-)