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> For example, try a query such as "coffee shops" and zoom in on the map to refine your search. There is exactly one result for "coffee shops" in San Francisco

by baddox 7y ago

> For example, try a query such as "coffee shops" and zoom in on the map to refine your search. There is exactly one result for "coffee shops" in San Francisco. The tech and privacy initiatives sound good, but unfortunately the data needs work to pass basic sanity checks. https://duckduckgo.com/?q=coffee+shops&ia=web&iaxm=maps&strict_bbox=1&bbox=37.891217720838085%2C-122.61477652810956%2C37.54794931917816%2C-122.22476187967206 https://duckduckgo.com/?q=coffee+shops&ia=web&iaxm=maps&stri... Edit: Searching for "coffee shop" (singular) shows many more results. Perhaps the blog post should use that as its example. https://duckduckgo.com/?q=coffee+shop&ia=web&iaxm=maps&strict_bbox=0&bbox=37.891217720838085%2C-122.61477652810956%2C37.54794931917816%2C-122.22476187967206 https://duckduckgo.com/?q=coffee+shop&ia=web&iaxm=maps&stric...

Avamander 7y ago
It's a fun example, imagine how garbage search in languages that have more than one case is is. :/
banach 7y ago
"coffee shop" on the other hand yields 20 results. I agree that some support for fuzzy search is needed, but there is a reasonable amount of data there.
- asdff 7y ago
  I hate when searches parse like that. Ideally coffee shop, coffee shops, coffee, cafe, espresso, etc. should all give me the same exact results: 100% of the stores in the area that sell coffee. I don't think there's a single piece of mapping software that doesn't suck hard in some way. It's pretty annoying how google maps shows you x number of results zoomed out, y zoomed in, and z with the map frame moved half a block to the left. Just show me everything. Search the entire city. Flood my map. Let me do the vetting, that's what I came to maps to do anyway.
  - bhandziuk 7y ago
    where the sets of y and z might not even overlap
- opportune 7y ago
  This shows that they are probably not even doing stemming which shouldn't be that hard to implement and could have great benefit/cost
iamaelephant 7y ago
Now imagine how bad it is outside of the SF bubble. I searched for coffee shops and the closest result to me is 7 hours drive away.
- scottmcf 7y ago
  Coffee shops gets me 3 results in my city, coffee shop gets me 4 results with the closest 45 miles away. Totally useless.
  - victor9000 7y ago
    I don't really understand how it's this bad when OSM data alone can get you much better results.
LeoPanthera 7y ago
Weirdly, "coffee shops in san francisco" shows a lot.
exhilaration 7y ago
I just tried "coffee shop" and "coffee shops" near my location in eastern Pennsylvania (semi-rural) and the results are atrocious. "Supermarket" shows all the possible options so it's not all bad.
amanzi 7y ago
There are only two coffee shops in Wellington (NZ) according to DDG/AppleMaps. https://duckduckgo.com/?q=coffee+shop&t=h_&ia=recipes&iaxm=maps&strict_bbox=1&bbox=-41.24944664749119%2C174.69779580831556%2C-41.37155497109185%2C174.9587211012843 https://duckduckgo.com/?q=coffee+shop&t=h_&ia=recipes&iaxm=m... Edit: searching for "cafe" gives better results but still not great https://duckduckgo.com/?q=cafe&t=h_&ia=recipes&iaxm=places&strict_bbox=1&bbox=-41.282797242649714%2C174.75755079072025%2C-41.3438487633782%2C174.88801343720462 https://duckduckgo.com/?q=cafe&t=h_&ia=recipes&iaxm=places&s...

by baddox 7y ago

Avamander 7y ago

It's a fun example, imagine how garbage search in languages that have more than one case is is. :/

banach 7y ago

"coffee shop" on the other hand yields 20 results. I agree that some support for fuzzy search is needed, but there is a reasonable amount of data there.

asdff 7y ago
I hate when searches parse like that. Ideally coffee shop, coffee shops, coffee, cafe, espresso, etc. should all give me the same exact results: 100% of the stores in the area that sell coffee. I don't think there's a single piece of mapping software that doesn't suck hard in some way. It's pretty annoying how google maps shows you x number of results zoomed out, y zoomed in, and z with the map frame moved half a block to the left. Just show me everything. Search the entire city. Flood my map. Let me do the vetting, that's what I came to maps to do anyway.
- bhandziuk 7y ago
  where the sets of y and z might not even overlap
opportune 7y ago
This shows that they are probably not even doing stemming which shouldn't be that hard to implement and could have great benefit/cost

iamaelephant 7y ago

Now imagine how bad it is outside of the SF bubble. I searched for coffee shops and the closest result to me is 7 hours drive away.

scottmcf 7y ago
Coffee shops gets me 3 results in my city, coffee shop gets me 4 results with the closest 45 miles away. Totally useless.
- victor9000 7y ago
  I don't really understand how it's this bad when OSM data alone can get you much better results.

LeoPanthera 7y ago

Weirdly, "coffee shops in san francisco" shows a lot.

exhilaration 7y ago

I just tried "coffee shop" and "coffee shops" near my location in eastern Pennsylvania (semi-rural) and the results are atrocious. "Supermarket" shows all the possible options so it's not all bad.

amanzi 7y ago

There are only two coffee shops in Wellington (NZ) according to DDG/AppleMaps. https://duckduckgo.com/?q=coffee+shop&t=h_&ia=recipes&iaxm=maps&strict_bbox=1&bbox=-41.24944664749119%2C174.69779580831556%2C-41.37155497109185%2C174.9587211012843 https://duckduckgo.com/?q=coffee+shop&t=h_&ia=recipes&iaxm=m... Edit: searching for "cafe" gives better results but still not great https://duckduckgo.com/?q=cafe&t=h_&ia=recipes&iaxm=places&strict_bbox=1&bbox=-41.282797242649714%2C174.75755079072025%2C-41.3438487633782%2C174.88801343720462 https://duckduckgo.com/?q=cafe&t=h_&ia=recipes&iaxm=places&s...