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I know in some jurisdictions at least you also need to identify the driver, because the ticket needs to be made out to whoever was speeding, which may or may no

by mstade 7y ago

I know in some jurisdictions at least you also need to identify the driver, because the ticket needs to be made out to whoever was speeding, which may or may not be the owner of the vehicle.

DanBC 7y ago
And some countries include a separate offence of "failing to identify the driver", with penalties usually more severe than the driving offence. A few British politicians have found this out the hard way. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Huhne https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Huhne https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/jan/29/labour-mp-fiona-onasanya-jailed-for-lying-speeding-ticket https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/jan/29/labour-mp-fi...
- velosol 7y ago
  I think this [1] Wikipedia article better covers the situation with Huhne. [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R_v_Huhne https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R_v_Huhne
- jackvalentine 7y ago
  A former Australian federal court judge went to jail for two years for lying about who was driving his car when it incurred a speeding fine worth $77 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcus_Einfeld#Criminal_conviction https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcus_Einfeld#Criminal_convic...
- mstade 7y ago
  Unless I'm missing something, both of these cases (and the case of the Australian judge a sibling commenter pointed to) has nothing to do with "failing to identify the driver" but all to do with straight up lying to the courts, i.e. perjury. The fact that they were speeding seems incidental.
Based_Detroiter 7y ago
Don't worry well have facial recognition for that soon enough
pmorici 7y ago
When speed cameras came about jurisdictions that wanted to use them simply changed their law to say that a photo/radar reading of the car speeding by the camera was prima facie evidence that the owner was responsible for the infraction. Luckily it isn't in Tesla's interest to just hand this info over to the government en mass.
- tracker1 7y ago
  There are indeed some aspects of Arizona I absolutely love. Unfortunately the D's and R's here seem to collude enough to slowly strip away a lot of the protections AZ law used to provide.

by mstade 7y ago

I know in some jurisdictions at least you also need to identify the driver, because the ticket needs to be made out to whoever was speeding, which may or may not be the owner of the vehicle.

DanBC 7y ago

And some countries include a separate offence of "failing to identify the driver", with penalties usually more severe than the driving offence. A few British politicians have found this out the hard way. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Huhne https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Huhne https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/jan/29/labour-mp-fiona-onasanya-jailed-for-lying-speeding-ticket https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/jan/29/labour-mp-fi...

velosol 7y ago
I think this [1] Wikipedia article better covers the situation with Huhne. [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R_v_Huhne https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R_v_Huhne
jackvalentine 7y ago
A former Australian federal court judge went to jail for two years for lying about who was driving his car when it incurred a speeding fine worth $77 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcus_Einfeld#Criminal_conviction https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcus_Einfeld#Criminal_convic...
mstade 7y ago
Unless I'm missing something, both of these cases (and the case of the Australian judge a sibling commenter pointed to) has nothing to do with "failing to identify the driver" but all to do with straight up lying to the courts, i.e. perjury. The fact that they were speeding seems incidental.

Based_Detroiter 7y ago

Don't worry well have facial recognition for that soon enough

pmorici 7y ago

When speed cameras came about jurisdictions that wanted to use them simply changed their law to say that a photo/radar reading of the car speeding by the camera was prima facie evidence that the owner was responsible for the infraction. Luckily it isn't in Tesla's interest to just hand this info over to the government en mass.

tracker1 7y ago
There are indeed some aspects of Arizona I absolutely love. Unfortunately the D's and R's here seem to collude enough to slowly strip away a lot of the protections AZ law used to provide.