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How does this look bad for Google? Honest question.
by cobookman 7y ago
How does this look bad for Google? Honest question.
- CydeWeys 7y agoIt's bad to retaliate against workers who organize against sexual harassment and gender compensation disparity in the workplace. It looks bad because it is bad.
- cobookman 7y agoProof of retaliation? I've yet to see anything concrete here. If anything it sounded like they disagreed with the company's business direction. Leaders listened, made some changes. They still disagreed...this time with leadership not feeling a change was necessary. they then quit as they disagreed with the company's direction.
- Jasper_ 7y agoShe was demoted without warning while her boss was giving her high remarks. The company reversed the demotion after she brought in a lawyer. That's retaliation.
- CydeWeys 7y agoThis is a separate issue now though. Just because something isn't completely proven (yet, anyway) doesn't mean that it doesn't already look bad from the outset. And if you listen to what they're actually saying, they're alleging retaliation, not merely disagreeing with the direction the company is going on.
- dmix 7y agoSo as long as you have good intentions you should be free to bring whatever politics to work? Regardless of how, as long as what your protesting the right things everything else doesn’t matter?
- Afton 7y agoProtesting against sexual harrassement and and equal compensation are just 'your politics'? huh.
- PhasmaFelis 7y agoWhen people say they want politics out of something, what they really mean is they want everyone else's politics out. My beliefs are common sense; your beliefs are partisan politics.
- dmix 7y agoThe fact you're conflating sexual harrassment (which is illegal almost everywhere) with an incredibly politicized concept as "equal compensation" (which even within one's own family there are wide disparities in outcomes, as even siblings from the same house can have widely different career outcomes, let alone in society) says everything... I also don’t like being told I support sexual harassment because I don’t think highly politicized work environments (note I said work environment not society) are a healthy environment. That’s a dirty tactic.
- pvg 7y agoincredibly politicized concept as "equal compensation" (which doesn't exist [...] Take a look at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equal_pay_for_equal_work https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equal_pay_for_equal_work
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- KUcxrAVrtI 7y agoSounds like getting rid of troublemakers who bite the hand that feeds them. If anything this will make googles stock price go up.
- SolaceQuantum 7y agoProtesting a lack of good general harassment handling shouldn't be considered trouble making behavior. The sexual harassment is trouble making and it was rewarded with hush money.
- KUcxrAVrtI 7y agoThey are specifically being targeted for forcing google out of China according to the article. It was fine as long as they were merely targeting social issues within google.
- CydeWeys 7y ago¿Por que no los dos?
- KUcxrAVrtI 7y agoBecause they were forced out after they publicly called google out on their Chinese stance. They were facing no consequences when it was merely men they were chasing out of google.
- CydeWeys 7y agoThe wheels grind slowly. You're expecting too much action too quickly. Also, "when it was merely men they were chasing out of google" is not remotely an accurate description of what the walkout was about. Do better.
- AlexandrB 7y agoThe hand that feeds Google are its employees. If the cream evaporates because of nasty behaviour like this the stock won't be up for too long.
- quibbler 7y agoNot really, because those are actually hate campaigns against men. Plenty of people would prefer their emploers to stay out of such shenanigans.
- JumpCrisscross 7y ago> How does this look bad for Google? Organising protests takes management and leadership skill. Regardless of retaliation, multiple people, predominantly women, who publicly demonstrated this skill are opting not to put it to use at Google. When competent people leave, it’s worth asking why and what further effect those departures might have.
- KUcxrAVrtI 7y agoHonestly if I had stock in google I'd buy more because they are getting rid of trouble makers. You can't have capitalism and democracy in the work place.
- eropple 7y agoGiven that your other posts are screeching about "stuck up women", perhaps one should surmise that your problem is not "democracy in the workplace." Which, while we're at it, is a misrepresentation of worker representation in company administration--a phenomenon that does work, as countries like Germany demonstrate.
- marktani 7y agoHaving a company culture where _everyone_ feels safe enough to speak up and being heard (instead of getting kicked out) is not democracy. It is smart and crucial, in my opinion. I am surprised that critizing something at a company equals being a trouble maker to you.
- jbigelow76 7y agoIt looks bad in so much as there will be angry tweets for a while and maybe some Medium articles written. But it's not bad in the sense that it won't blow over, anything will change, or there will be any real punishment of anybody at Google over it.
- la_barba 7y agoAt some level, it looks bad because of bad PR and the manner of how people report on it (clickbait or otherwise). At another level, we can fill the blank in various ways. "it personally looks bad to me because ____". One way to fill the blank is to assume in good faith what the person is saying. And if you do, Google does look bad IMHO. Of course, I've seen people leave and badmouth companies when its their own fault for causing the situation. Its only people who are involved in the situation who can confirm all the specifics. As outsiders we can only assign some kind of probability here.