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Looks good for Google to me. These protests were getting out of hand, and their demands were showing some major entitlement.
by lawnchair_larry 7y ago
Looks good for Google to me. These protests were getting out of hand, and their demands were showing some major entitlement.
- geofft 7y agoThey're the people making Google work. Why shouldn't they be entitled?
- el_nahual 7y agoBecause Google gives them money in exchange for said work.
- lallysingh 7y agoA sense of entitlement is part of Googler culture. The inside joke was that this was measured for interviewing candidates.
- qntty 7y agoAnd Google employees do the work that keeps the company going. There's no law that says that people can't refuse to do certain kinds of work. You take a job that you expect to give you work that you find acceptable and if that expectation is violated, you resist.
- qntty 7y agoSome people think the leaders of Google are entitled to unilaterally decide what people at Google work on, and if you resist that sense of entitlement, people call you entitled.
- lawnchair_larry 7y agoSeriously? Leaders who hired you and pay you are entitled to direct your work. What planet are you from?
- qntty 7y agoSorry I was taught as a kid that just power is derived from the consent of the governed. Must be weird for some people.
- geodel 7y agoSeems as adult you are not taught the difference between governed and employed.
- geofft 7y agoThe planet where the people making a thing happen are the most valuable ones. Ask anyone from Ayn Rand to Karl Marx.
- ddalex 7y agoBut Meredith was not making things happening for their employer, at least not in the way that they hired her to do.
- jlawson 7y agoIf you're the one paying for the work, you're entitled to say what the work will be. In this case 'you' is Google shareholders, through their representatives. Nobody is entitled to be paid to do what they choose. If you want to do something for your own personal reasons, do it off the clock.
- KirinDave 7y agoYou don't understand Google culture if you think this line would fly with anyone there. Entitlement for full time employees is baked into the charter, along with transparency. That's a good thing and a bad thing, in different ways. It gave bad actors a lot of autonomy, but it also exposed them to scrutiny and pushback from good actors. What's surprising is that now these reprisals are trying to push that back to make Google more like other normal companies and organizational structures.
- 0815test 7y ago> It gave bad actors a lot of autonomy, but it also exposed them to scrutiny and pushback from good actors. So far, we've seen quite a bit of the former and very little of the latter. Google's work culture seems to have become politically divisive to a rather surprising extent - if this is what "entitlement" boils down to, surely a more "normal" structure (though I'd settle for just a marginal increase in professionalism, similar to what we see in other "grassroots-led" organizations) can't be all that bad!
- KirinDave 7y agoI agree! The victories are small and recent. The exposure of executive sexism, The push back against military contractors, and the recent pride petitions are modest victories at best, and they've come with a heavy price. Still, many other major tech companies lack a list at all, despite every indication of facing similar issues.
- fourthark 7y agoThis is the big point. It's true that it is not normal for employees to be able to speak against their company (or express strong opinions publicly). Yet Google has always prided itself on being different in having outspoken employees. This is why it looks bad for Google when it's just business as usual everywhere else.
- lawnchair_larry 7y agoEveryone I know at Google hates these “protests” and can’t stand the entitlement. It sounds to me like they are a vocal minority. This has nothing to do with transparency and speaking out against your employer. The issue is not that they have a voice, it’s how they choose to use it.
- UncleMeat 7y ago"Don't pay out millions of dollars to people who were asked to quietly resign after harassing employees" is major entitlement?