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How does the Reeder iPhone app swipe up and down between articles?

32 points by boctor 16y ago

zach 16y ago
This first showed up in Tweetie, whose author filed for a patent on it, so be aware: http://gorumors.com/twitter-patent-drag-to-refresh/2754292 http://gorumors.com/twitter-patent-drag-to-refresh/2754292 Edit: Since there is curiosity about the claims, here's the application: http://www.google.com/patents/about?id=C3PTAAAAEBAJ http://www.google.com/patents/about?id=C3PTAAAAEBAJ
- boctor 16y ago
  The Reeder functionality is slightly different: it is not used to refresh but to get to the previous/next article. Of course it is possible that the patent is broad enough that it covers this too...
- alanh 16y ago
  Wow, a patent? I wonder if theoretically “infinite scroll” web pages could be considered prior art? This also might explain why Apple isn’t busy updating Mail on iPhone to also use pull-to-refresh…
- gte910h 16y ago
  I thought non-transformational software patents were deemed invalid last year? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Machine-or-transformation_test http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Machine-or-transformation_test
- wallflower 16y ago
  I thought the general consensus of the iOS community is that Loren filed the patent defensively to protect anyone using pull-to-refresh from being sued by someone else who could have patented it.
  - zach 16y ago
    That's good to hear. I was intimidated by the patent's existence myself. As an aside, I thought all that's required for that kind of defense is a provisional application. And if you really want it to pass into the public domain, you can simply let a year lapse without completing application. Is that right? I'm not an expert and I've never patented anything. Maybe it's better to actually get the patent.
- brown9-2 16y ago
  Hmm, the Facebook iPhone app has the same drag to reload functionality. I thought perhaps it was just a (newish) iOS widget.
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32 points by boctor 16y ago

zach 16y ago

This first showed up in Tweetie, whose author filed for a patent on it, so be aware: http://gorumors.com/twitter-patent-drag-to-refresh/2754292 http://gorumors.com/twitter-patent-drag-to-refresh/2754292 Edit: Since there is curiosity about the claims, here's the application: http://www.google.com/patents/about?id=C3PTAAAAEBAJ http://www.google.com/patents/about?id=C3PTAAAAEBAJ

boctor 16y ago
The Reeder functionality is slightly different: it is not used to refresh but to get to the previous/next article. Of course it is possible that the patent is broad enough that it covers this too...
alanh 16y ago
Wow, a patent? I wonder if theoretically “infinite scroll” web pages could be considered prior art? This also might explain why Apple isn’t busy updating Mail on iPhone to also use pull-to-refresh…
gte910h 16y ago
I thought non-transformational software patents were deemed invalid last year? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Machine-or-transformation_test http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Machine-or-transformation_test
wallflower 16y ago
I thought the general consensus of the iOS community is that Loren filed the patent defensively to protect anyone using pull-to-refresh from being sued by someone else who could have patented it.
- zach 16y ago
  That's good to hear. I was intimidated by the patent's existence myself. As an aside, I thought all that's required for that kind of defense is a provisional application. And if you really want it to pass into the public domain, you can simply let a year lapse without completing application. Is that right? I'm not an expert and I've never patented anything. Maybe it's better to actually get the patent.
brown9-2 16y ago
Hmm, the Facebook iPhone app has the same drag to reload functionality. I thought perhaps it was just a (newish) iOS widget.

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