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The M5 does a 10.5 1/4 mile, it is a very impressive time for a production vehicle but it's not insane. A lot of production sports bikes are into the 9s. * htt

by tvon 7y ago

The M5 does a 10.5 1/4 mile, it is a very impressive time for a production vehicle but it's not insane. A lot of production sports bikes are into the 9s. * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fastest_production_cars_by_acceleration#By_1/4_mile_or_400_metre_times_(11_seconds_or_less)[ii] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fastest_production_car... * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fastest_production_motorcycles_by_acceleration#By_quarter-mile_time,_12_seconds_or_less https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fastest_production_mot... edit: Actually 10.5 is pretty insane for a production vehicle but we live in a time with a lot of insanely fast and overpowered cars.

lazyjones 7y ago
> The M5 does a 10.5 1/4 mile Source? On your wikipedia page it says 10.9 ... Also, it's currently more expensive than a Model S Performance.
- tvon 7y ago
  Source was just a google of M5, but you're right that page says 10.9. It was an argument against the "insanity" of a 10.5 time, you're right it costs quite a bit more.
  - mywittyname 7y ago
    A 10.5 is only normal to arm-chair racers spoiled by the glut of 600+hp factory cars. Even 10 years ago, those times were reserved for hyper-cars, or stripped-out hotrods which were towed to the track. Even today it's impressive to see a street car run under 12s. On a given test and tune night, I'll see maybe one out of 50 street cars run sub-11s, and they're always obviously modified. You claim it isn't insane, yet your example is BMW's fastest car. I'll throw out another Definitely Not Insane Car running a similar time: Ferrari 488 GTB.
    - navigatesol 7y ago
      >You claim it isn't insane Whether or not it's "insane" is semantics. The point is that once you get up into this echelon of cars, 10.5 isn't game-changing. Chrysler built a car that will stomp the Model S, and it costs 20% less. For $100k you can build many cars that will outperform a Model S; 10.5 quarter mile isn't "insane" at that price if that's what you're optimizing for. I suppose it's exhausting seeing Tesla marketing claim "fastest car ever!" because 0-60s are fast (which, as you said is mostly due to traction and the electric drivetrain). It's embarrassing when people start comparing the Model S performance to Ferraris and Lamborghinis. They aren't even in the same league when it comes to being race ready.
      - lazyjones 7y ago
        > Chrysler built a car that will stomp the Model S, and it costs 20% less. Which car is that?

by tvon 7y ago

lazyjones 7y ago

> The M5 does a 10.5 1/4 mile Source? On your wikipedia page it says 10.9 ... Also, it's currently more expensive than a Model S Performance.

tvon 7y ago
Source was just a google of M5, but you're right that page says 10.9. It was an argument against the "insanity" of a 10.5 time, you're right it costs quite a bit more.
- mywittyname 7y ago
  A 10.5 is only normal to arm-chair racers spoiled by the glut of 600+hp factory cars. Even 10 years ago, those times were reserved for hyper-cars, or stripped-out hotrods which were towed to the track. Even today it's impressive to see a street car run under 12s. On a given test and tune night, I'll see maybe one out of 50 street cars run sub-11s, and they're always obviously modified. You claim it isn't insane, yet your example is BMW's fastest car. I'll throw out another Definitely Not Insane Car running a similar time: Ferrari 488 GTB.
  - navigatesol 7y ago
    >You claim it isn't insane Whether or not it's "insane" is semantics. The point is that once you get up into this echelon of cars, 10.5 isn't game-changing. Chrysler built a car that will stomp the Model S, and it costs 20% less. For $100k you can build many cars that will outperform a Model S; 10.5 quarter mile isn't "insane" at that price if that's what you're optimizing for. I suppose it's exhausting seeing Tesla marketing claim "fastest car ever!" because 0-60s are fast (which, as you said is mostly due to traction and the electric drivetrain). It's embarrassing when people start comparing the Model S performance to Ferraris and Lamborghinis. They aren't even in the same league when it comes to being race ready.
    - lazyjones 7y ago
      > Chrysler built a car that will stomp the Model S, and it costs 20% less. Which car is that?