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But don't use it to often in a row, because the battery will be getting hot and will limit the power output to level, which is way below any term related to per

But don't use it to often in a row, because the battery will be getting hot and will limit the power output to level, which is way below any term related to performance.

zaroth 7y ago
True for the old Model S, but not a factor on the Model 3 unless you are on the track. Bjørn Nyland has an amazing series of EV videos (of course, mostly Tesla). He recently set the 24-hour EV range record, and has milllions of views. He's also funny as hell to listen ramble on and on. Here is him trying to overheat a Tesla Model 3 [1], but you could spend an afternoon on his channel watching him drive around [2]. [1] - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4oeV0Cgyk0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4oeV0Cgyk0 [2] - https://www.youtube.com/user/bjornnyland/videos https://www.youtube.com/user/bjornnyland/videos
gruez 7y ago
Sounds like how "turbo"/"boost" works on modern CPUs.
vvanders 7y ago
Unless you're on a track you won't be getting usage patterns that kick in thermal limiting. If your planning on buying a car to track a 4 door, 5k lbs car isn't exactly the best choice.
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- lazerpants 7y ago
  Motor Trend's track test impression of the M3P was actually quite positive: "In our testing, we found the Model 3 Performance to be a joy around the track." https://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/road-tests/a22625274/tesla-model-3-performance-track-test/ https://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/road-tests/a22625274/t...
Lendal 7y ago
You have to be going ~160 mph for several minutes to induce the overheat power reduction mode. In the US it would take driving on an oval racetrack. I enjoy watching YouTube videos of people running these on German highways to get them to overheat. Those are quite fun videos to watch. I highly recommend.
- Tomte 7y ago
  I would appreciate American tourists not to abuse the Autobahn as their racetrack. And remember, even when there is no speed limit, Richtgeschwindigkeit is 80 mph, and if you're going faster, the judge will apportion more liability to you in case of an accident, even if you've driven perfectly.
- dsfyu404ed 7y ago
  If you trash the aerodynamics (i.e. get a roof rack and put something on it) you can probably overheat it at normal highway speeds (i.e. 80mph) given a few miles of uphill.
- PinguTS 7y ago
  May be not 160 mph, but I go 120 mph regularly. I don't need any Youtube for this. BTW: Model S max speed is 155 mph.
electriclove 7y ago
I think that may have been the old S. The reports I've read have not seen that issue with the 3.
leesec 7y ago
This is a nice troll but yeah the Performance Model 3 is literally a supercar for 55k~. I have the slow one and it's Very Performant, so much so that I rarely get a chance to use the speed.
- supergauntlet 7y ago
  > literally a supercar for 55k~. Sorry but this isn't accurate at all. It's an electric muscle car. It goes fast in a straight line and that's it. It can't corner, it can't sustain the acceleration for long periods of time due to overheating (which is completely reasonable - it wasn't designed for that), it's heavy as hell. It's just really really good at flooring it from a standstill or low speed, cruising, and highway acceleration (50 mph to 90 mph). This isn't a knock on any Tesla, but they're grand tourers at best. Certainly not a supercar. You can't compare these with something that can actually corner at all.
  - lexs 7y ago
    Rimac would be the supercar equivalent for EVs I guess
  - zaroth 7y ago
    This is a fully stock (even tires) Tesla Model 3P running Laguna Seca in 1:46.1 at the end of a long day of racing BMWs. Just for fun the driver wanted to take his Telsa out, and his boss is riding shotgun. [1] The production EV record is held by a non-stock TM3P (upgraded suspension, brakes, and tires) at 1:37.5 [2]. By comparison, here are a list of Laguna Seca records [3]. [1] - https://youtu.be/_DZSMxrHyHo https://youtu.be/_DZSMxrHyHo [2] - https://youtu.be/D1MDCPk-7Yw https://youtu.be/D1MDCPk-7Yw [3] - https://i.imgsafe.org/7d/7d96bea0ab.png https://i.imgsafe.org/7d/7d96bea0ab.png
    - supergauntlet 7y ago
      This is proving my point. Look at the lap times on Laguna. https://fastestlaps.com/tracks/laguna-seca-post-1988 https://fastestlaps.com/tracks/laguna-seca-post-1988 Most of the stuff around the 1:45-1:47 mark is a hot hatch, a grand tourer, or a muscle car. Seriously, you gotta understand, I'm super hyped for the electric GT series with the Model S to take off, but these are not supercars. They're comparable to an M series BMW or a nice muscle car, which is fine.
ovi256 7y ago
That happens with ICE vehicles too, Grand Tour got several to overheat and go into "limp home" mode. They're also not designed to be run at a high load factor.

But don't use it to often in a row, because the battery will be getting hot and will limit the power output to level, which is way below any term related to performance.

zaroth 7y ago

True for the old Model S, but not a factor on the Model 3 unless you are on the track. Bjørn Nyland has an amazing series of EV videos (of course, mostly Tesla). He recently set the 24-hour EV range record, and has milllions of views. He's also funny as hell to listen ramble on and on. Here is him trying to overheat a Tesla Model 3 [1], but you could spend an afternoon on his channel watching him drive around [2]. [1] - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4oeV0Cgyk0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4oeV0Cgyk0 [2] - https://www.youtube.com/user/bjornnyland/videos https://www.youtube.com/user/bjornnyland/videos

gruez 7y ago

Sounds like how "turbo"/"boost" works on modern CPUs.

vvanders 7y ago

Unless you're on a track you won't be getting usage patterns that kick in thermal limiting. If your planning on buying a car to track a 4 door, 5k lbs car isn't exactly the best choice.

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lazerpants 7y ago
Motor Trend's track test impression of the M3P was actually quite positive: "In our testing, we found the Model 3 Performance to be a joy around the track." https://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/road-tests/a22625274/tesla-model-3-performance-track-test/ https://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/road-tests/a22625274/t...

Lendal 7y ago

You have to be going ~160 mph for several minutes to induce the overheat power reduction mode. In the US it would take driving on an oval racetrack. I enjoy watching YouTube videos of people running these on German highways to get them to overheat. Those are quite fun videos to watch. I highly recommend.

Tomte 7y ago
I would appreciate American tourists not to abuse the Autobahn as their racetrack. And remember, even when there is no speed limit, Richtgeschwindigkeit is 80 mph, and if you're going faster, the judge will apportion more liability to you in case of an accident, even if you've driven perfectly.
dsfyu404ed 7y ago
If you trash the aerodynamics (i.e. get a roof rack and put something on it) you can probably overheat it at normal highway speeds (i.e. 80mph) given a few miles of uphill.
PinguTS 7y ago
May be not 160 mph, but I go 120 mph regularly. I don't need any Youtube for this. BTW: Model S max speed is 155 mph.

electriclove 7y ago

I think that may have been the old S. The reports I've read have not seen that issue with the 3.

leesec 7y ago

This is a nice troll but yeah the Performance Model 3 is literally a supercar for 55k~. I have the slow one and it's Very Performant, so much so that I rarely get a chance to use the speed.

supergauntlet 7y ago
> literally a supercar for 55k~. Sorry but this isn't accurate at all. It's an electric muscle car. It goes fast in a straight line and that's it. It can't corner, it can't sustain the acceleration for long periods of time due to overheating (which is completely reasonable - it wasn't designed for that), it's heavy as hell. It's just really really good at flooring it from a standstill or low speed, cruising, and highway acceleration (50 mph to 90 mph). This isn't a knock on any Tesla, but they're grand tourers at best. Certainly not a supercar. You can't compare these with something that can actually corner at all.
- lexs 7y ago
  Rimac would be the supercar equivalent for EVs I guess
- zaroth 7y ago
  This is a fully stock (even tires) Tesla Model 3P running Laguna Seca in 1:46.1 at the end of a long day of racing BMWs. Just for fun the driver wanted to take his Telsa out, and his boss is riding shotgun. [1] The production EV record is held by a non-stock TM3P (upgraded suspension, brakes, and tires) at 1:37.5 [2]. By comparison, here are a list of Laguna Seca records [3]. [1] - https://youtu.be/_DZSMxrHyHo https://youtu.be/_DZSMxrHyHo [2] - https://youtu.be/D1MDCPk-7Yw https://youtu.be/D1MDCPk-7Yw [3] - https://i.imgsafe.org/7d/7d96bea0ab.png https://i.imgsafe.org/7d/7d96bea0ab.png
  - supergauntlet 7y ago
    This is proving my point. Look at the lap times on Laguna. https://fastestlaps.com/tracks/laguna-seca-post-1988 https://fastestlaps.com/tracks/laguna-seca-post-1988 Most of the stuff around the 1:45-1:47 mark is a hot hatch, a grand tourer, or a muscle car. Seriously, you gotta understand, I'm super hyped for the electric GT series with the Model S to take off, but these are not supercars. They're comparable to an M series BMW or a nice muscle car, which is fine.

ovi256 7y ago

That happens with ICE vehicles too, Grand Tour got several to overheat and go into "limp home" mode. They're also not designed to be run at a high load factor.