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Still not clear how users are 'helping' exactly? Seems like they just have their chats filtered. What am I missing? This is a frustrating article to read. Ever

Still not clear how users are 'helping' exactly? Seems like they just have their chats filtered. What am I missing? This is a frustrating article to read. Every sentence and paragraph from the start to about 3/4 down just repeats the same information as is in the headline over and over again in a different format.

hyayz 7y ago
SCMP. An anti-China rag.
- helloindia 7y ago
  It's owned by Jack Ma. https://www.scmp.com/news/china/society/article/1937256/alibabas-jack-ma-reveals-why-he-bought-south-china-morning-post https://www.scmp.com/news/china/society/article/1937256/alib...
- yorwba 7y ago
  The more common accusation is that they're too "pro-Beijing": https://hn.algolia.com/?query=SCMP%20pro-Beijing&type=comment https://hn.algolia.com/?query=SCMP%20pro-Beijing&type=commen... Seems like they're doing something right with their reporting if both "pro-China" and "anti-China" camps believe them to be allied with the enemy.
  - heraclius 7y ago
    I don’t think that there is much evidence of being excessively against China; I remember one incident suggesting the opposite.¹ There are certainly more establishment voices in the opinion pages than elsewhere, but they are on the liberal side of the establishment camp; the editor, for example, has attacked the government’s intransigence in the handling of the extradition bill, but is generally pro-establishment. 1. http://www.asiasentinel.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=4608&Itemid=173 http://www.asiasentinel.com/index.php?option=com_content&tas...
    - yorwba 7y ago
      Your link doesn't seem to point to a specific article. I get a page that looks exactly the same as the AsiaSentinel home page.
      - heraclius 7y ago
        You’re right—I remember reading something from AsiaSentinel and getting there via the Wikipedia page on media censorship in HK, but it doesn’t link to anything any more. I should have checked. There are lots of stories on Google though so is possible to verify that I am not in fact making things up.

hyayz 7y ago

SCMP. An anti-China rag.

helloindia 7y ago
It's owned by Jack Ma. https://www.scmp.com/news/china/society/article/1937256/alibabas-jack-ma-reveals-why-he-bought-south-china-morning-post https://www.scmp.com/news/china/society/article/1937256/alib...
yorwba 7y ago
The more common accusation is that they're too "pro-Beijing": https://hn.algolia.com/?query=SCMP%20pro-Beijing&type=comment https://hn.algolia.com/?query=SCMP%20pro-Beijing&type=commen... Seems like they're doing something right with their reporting if both "pro-China" and "anti-China" camps believe them to be allied with the enemy.
- heraclius 7y ago
  I don’t think that there is much evidence of being excessively against China; I remember one incident suggesting the opposite.¹ There are certainly more establishment voices in the opinion pages than elsewhere, but they are on the liberal side of the establishment camp; the editor, for example, has attacked the government’s intransigence in the handling of the extradition bill, but is generally pro-establishment. 1. http://www.asiasentinel.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=4608&Itemid=173 http://www.asiasentinel.com/index.php?option=com_content&tas...
  - yorwba 7y ago
    Your link doesn't seem to point to a specific article. I get a page that looks exactly the same as the AsiaSentinel home page.
    - heraclius 7y ago
      You’re right—I remember reading something from AsiaSentinel and getting there via the Wikipedia page on media censorship in HK, but it doesn’t link to anything any more. I should have checked. There are lots of stories on Google though so is possible to verify that I am not in fact making things up.