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A sizable number of Mac users are not really Mac users, they happen to use a Mac at work or for some other reason, and usually end using the likes of Chrome, GI

by eddieh 7y ago

A sizable number of Mac users are not really Mac users, they happen to use a Mac at work or for some other reason, and usually end using the likes of Chrome, GIMP, Gmail, Google Docs, and all manner of Electron apps.

skinnymuch 7y ago
A sizeable amt of Mac users who use VSCode are also not like what you’re talking about. An easy way to see this is by going through GitHub repos relating to Mac geekiness and seeing VSCode represented quite a bit. How many general code editors are alive today that are truly “Mac” apps? Sublime sure isn’t to me. Coda is pretty specific to web dev. BBEdit and Textmate 2. The latter of which is sometimes mocked and barely used.
- saagarjha 7y ago
  TextMate is mocked? Why?
  - skinnymuch 7y ago
    It didn’t get updated for a very long time. Textmate 2 was in production for a long time. When it came out many had switched from Textmate already. And Textmate 2 missed many features that newer editors have while also not having much of an ecosystem any more. So a common mocking is something like Textmate? Yeah I used that a decade ago, etc.
flomo 7y ago
I've been using Macs since the early 90s, and VSC is fine for me. All the skeuomorphic stuff Apple has put out pretty much shits all over any widget purity arguments IMO. Most users don't care, they just don't want it to look ugly or like a bad windows port.
- pcr910303 7y ago
  > Most users don't care, they just don't want it to look ugly or like a bad windows port. I’m very surprised at that, since myself and most of my friends value very much of how the UI is Cocoa. I’m pretty sure a majority of the macOS user base considers the macOS look-and-feel very importantly.
  - girvo 7y ago
    Well I’ll back up the grandparent comment: I don’t want it to look crap, but it being entirely native Cocoa doesn’t bother me either way. It’s nice when an app is, but as long as it’s not horrible to look at or use, I’m happy. I know a lot of my fellow developers where I work are the same way, so I don’t know how true your thesis is on the majority wanting “give me Cocoa or give me death” — but I’m arguing anecdotes with anecdotes haha

by eddieh 7y ago

skinnymuch 7y ago

A sizeable amt of Mac users who use VSCode are also not like what you’re talking about. An easy way to see this is by going through GitHub repos relating to Mac geekiness and seeing VSCode represented quite a bit. How many general code editors are alive today that are truly “Mac” apps? Sublime sure isn’t to me. Coda is pretty specific to web dev. BBEdit and Textmate 2. The latter of which is sometimes mocked and barely used.

saagarjha 7y ago
TextMate is mocked? Why?
- skinnymuch 7y ago
  It didn’t get updated for a very long time. Textmate 2 was in production for a long time. When it came out many had switched from Textmate already. And Textmate 2 missed many features that newer editors have while also not having much of an ecosystem any more. So a common mocking is something like Textmate? Yeah I used that a decade ago, etc.

flomo 7y ago

I've been using Macs since the early 90s, and VSC is fine for me. All the skeuomorphic stuff Apple has put out pretty much shits all over any widget purity arguments IMO. Most users don't care, they just don't want it to look ugly or like a bad windows port.

pcr910303 7y ago
> Most users don't care, they just don't want it to look ugly or like a bad windows port. I’m very surprised at that, since myself and most of my friends value very much of how the UI is Cocoa. I’m pretty sure a majority of the macOS user base considers the macOS look-and-feel very importantly.
- girvo 7y ago
  Well I’ll back up the grandparent comment: I don’t want it to look crap, but it being entirely native Cocoa doesn’t bother me either way. It’s nice when an app is, but as long as it’s not horrible to look at or use, I’m happy. I know a lot of my fellow developers where I work are the same way, so I don’t know how true your thesis is on the majority wanting “give me Cocoa or give me death” — but I’m arguing anecdotes with anecdotes haha