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VSC isn't a well-behaving Mac-app. As I said in https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20440258 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20440258, coherent UI is a v
by pcr910303 7y ago
VSC isn't a well-behaving Mac-app.
As I said in https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20440258 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20440258, coherent UI is a very important point to users since they can assume that some feature from App X will also work on App Y.
This is very prevalent in the macOS Cocoa ecosystem unlike Windows(every app reinvents notifications) or Linux(GTK/Qt/... fragmentation).
Hence the importance of Cocoa in macOS apps. (and VSC is electron :-()
- danielparks 7y agoExactly. I tried it for a few weeks and couldn’t stand it. There’s just too much non-Mac UI for a tool that honestly isn’t that powerful. For example, the search and replace is truly awful. I use BBEdit because it’s both consistent and powerful (better search and replace than vim). This is coming from a guy who used a highly customized vim set up as his primary editor for years.
- pedrogpimenta 7y agoWhy did you stop using vim?
- danielparks 7y agoThe number one reason is that BBEdit’s search and replace is better. I can select text, make it the search pattern, then modify the text and make it the replace pattern. Then I can do a full or partial search and replace without ever opening the Find window. If I want, I can open the Find window and edit either string. The search string will already be properly escaped as a regular expression. vim’s search and replace is just a lot less convenient. Beyond that, BBEdit is a Mac app through and through, so it feels very natural to use.
- ravenstine 7y agoAnd yet a sizable number of Mac users choose to use it.
- pcr910303 7y ago> And yet a sizable number of Mac users choose to use it. Yes, but that doesn't change that VSCode isn't a well-behaving Mac App. Yeah, VSCode is a pretty great app, but it's not because of it's UI.
- eddieh 7y agoA sizable number of Mac users are not really Mac users, they happen to use a Mac at work or for some other reason, and usually end using the likes of Chrome, GIMP, Gmail, Google Docs, and all manner of Electron apps.
- skinnymuch 7y agoA sizeable amt of Mac users who use VSCode are also not like what you’re talking about. An easy way to see this is by going through GitHub repos relating to Mac geekiness and seeing VSCode represented quite a bit. How many general code editors are alive today that are truly “Mac” apps? Sublime sure isn’t to me. Coda is pretty specific to web dev. BBEdit and Textmate 2. The latter of which is sometimes mocked and barely used.
- saagarjha 7y agoTextMate is mocked? Why?
- skinnymuch 7y agoIt didn’t get updated for a very long time. Textmate 2 was in production for a long time. When it came out many had switched from Textmate already. And Textmate 2 missed many features that newer editors have while also not having much of an ecosystem any more. So a common mocking is something like Textmate? Yeah I used that a decade ago, etc.
- flomo 7y agoI've been using Macs since the early 90s, and VSC is fine for me. All the skeuomorphic stuff Apple has put out pretty much shits all over any widget purity arguments IMO. Most users don't care, they just don't want it to look ugly or like a bad windows port.
- hutattedonmyarm 7y agoYeah, I love using VSC on my windows machine, but I'll stick to Sublime on macOS. It does also have a lot of weirdness/non-mac behavior, but it's a lot better (and doesn't kill performance)
- chpmrc 7y agoHow does Sublime Text contribute to the open web and how is it consistent with macOS UI?