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In that case, what’s wrong with heroine? You’re just sticking entertainment into your arm. (This is intentionally hyperbolic). This issue isn’t really the mone
by ohyes 7y ago
In that case, what’s wrong with heroine? You’re just sticking entertainment into your arm. (This is intentionally hyperbolic).
This issue isn’t really the money -> gratification conversion, it’s the addictive nature of the process. If I’ve done everything I can to addict you to my product (to remove your ability to decide for yourself)... I’m in a morally bad area.
I’m of the opinion that some of these addictive response patterns should be banned from games flat-out, whether or not there’s a direct connection to someone’s line of credit.
If heroine were free, it would still be a problem for those addicted to it, if not for very long. (Although no one would have a financial incentive to get other people hooked, so it’s an interesting thought experiment as to whether use would increase or decrease).
- maze-le 7y agoThat is a very bad example. In Switzerland, if you are a severe addict, you can get heroine in pharmacies. The most important restriction is that if you buy the stuff, you are also bound to go to a therapeutic clinic and have staff assisting you whenever you want to withdraw. There are also clean injection rooms and other social mechanisms that help you get off the stuff. The result -- fewer heroine addicts, fewer drug-related crime, less active criminal underworld (because of lower drug-related income). An adult discourse and proper handling of addiction and substance abuse not only helps the addicts, but the whole society.
- ohyes 7y agoI think that makes it an even better example. Giving away the addictive thing you still have to pay the societal cost of having people addicted to it. Switzerland handles this is a very admirable way and they have excellent outcomes, due to treating addiction as a disease rather than an individual moral failing. I don't see why substance abuse in particular should get a super-special treatment in our discourse on human addiction-related behavior. If it's destroying your ability to function in society, and something that you might want to drop the habit of, we should support our fellow people in doing it. If that is gambling, video-games, porn, they all activate similar dopamine related effects. Heroine and other opiates are super-effective at this, but it is still the same pathway being activated.
- maze-le 7y agoGood response! See my updated/edited other post. You are right essentially -- these games can and sometimes do work like drugs -- neurochemically. And like with drugs total prohibition will probably make things even worse.
- chepaslaaa 7y agoThe main problem with opiates in north america is that they're prescribed with no mechanism in place for withdrawing.
- Chris_Chambers 7y agoWhy should we do anything to help people with self-destructive problems? Just let them die off. Keeping the weak alive is a shortsighted dysgenic manifestation of empathy incontinence.
- joenot443 7y agoI think there are plenty of companies who there who do everything in their power to addict people to their products. Whether it's moral is a completely different discussion, but I definitely don't think this pattern is unique to game developers.