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Why did the author of the list focus around the Apple ecosystem? How exactly do design tools like acorn/pixelmator promote the open web?

rlt 7y ago
Yeah, this is just a list of favorite apps among the indie Apple developer crowd. I'm surprised Daring Fireball didn't end up on there somehow :)
- lallysingh 7y ago
  Is DF still relevant? I feel he's lost his independence from AAPL since they started taking him seriously.
  - steve_adams_86 7y ago
    He routinely critiques them and their executives. He seems very independent to me.
pcr910303 7y ago
> Why did the author of the list focus around the Apple ecosystem? I believe it's more strange to not believe it shouldn't be focused on Apple, considering the link title includes 'Mac'? > How exactly do design tools like acorn/pixelmator promote the open web? Looks like the author believes that the tools make photo-editing much more beginner-friendly (and that is true), lowering the barrier and allowing more people to participate to the web (hence the open web).
- Nullabillity 7y ago
  > I believe it's more strange to not believe it shouldn't be focused on Apple, considering the link title includes 'Mac'? Maybe the name shouldn't include that, then? > Looks like the author believes that the tools make photo-editing much more beginner-friendly (and that is true), lowering the barrier and allowing more people to participate to the web (hence the open web). A $40 application running on a platform that thinks $1100 is appropriate entry-level pricing isn't lowering anyone's barriers to anything.
  - seltzered_ 7y ago
    Yes, you're expressing a rawer form of my comments intent. The point was to provoke thinking about other ecosystems, and possibly have a site that may shows gaps that may need to be filled, or areas where just a bit of polish could be done. Digressing, some of the gaps may be outside of apps/open web and more to do with infrastructure/pricing (see: https://catonmat.net/incredible-events-at-browserling https://catonmat.net/incredible-events-at-browserling (india and whatsapp), and as a slight contrast whatsapp-centrism in brazil: https://youtu.be/Wu9q5fb6MO0?t=1340 https://youtu.be/Wu9q5fb6MO0?t=1340 ). Some areas of the world, pragmatically at this point in time, may not be served better through mere 'open web' evangelism. In fairness, I make the same mistakes as the original author as someone who has works within an Apple-centric ecosystem and is in similar first-world social circles.
  - yoz-y 7y ago
    > Maybe the name shouldn't include that, then? Why not? There are already a lot of resources for various other ecosystems. Should all PlayStation focused publications also include games for all platforms? Should Android Police talk about Symbian?

rlt 7y ago

Yeah, this is just a list of favorite apps among the indie Apple developer crowd. I'm surprised Daring Fireball didn't end up on there somehow :)

lallysingh 7y ago
Is DF still relevant? I feel he's lost his independence from AAPL since they started taking him seriously.
- steve_adams_86 7y ago
  He routinely critiques them and their executives. He seems very independent to me.

pcr910303 7y ago

> Why did the author of the list focus around the Apple ecosystem? I believe it's more strange to not believe it shouldn't be focused on Apple, considering the link title includes 'Mac'? > How exactly do design tools like acorn/pixelmator promote the open web? Looks like the author believes that the tools make photo-editing much more beginner-friendly (and that is true), lowering the barrier and allowing more people to participate to the web (hence the open web).

Nullabillity 7y ago
> I believe it's more strange to not believe it shouldn't be focused on Apple, considering the link title includes 'Mac'? Maybe the name shouldn't include that, then? > Looks like the author believes that the tools make photo-editing much more beginner-friendly (and that is true), lowering the barrier and allowing more people to participate to the web (hence the open web). A $40 application running on a platform that thinks $1100 is appropriate entry-level pricing isn't lowering anyone's barriers to anything.
- seltzered_ 7y ago
  Yes, you're expressing a rawer form of my comments intent. The point was to provoke thinking about other ecosystems, and possibly have a site that may shows gaps that may need to be filled, or areas where just a bit of polish could be done. Digressing, some of the gaps may be outside of apps/open web and more to do with infrastructure/pricing (see: https://catonmat.net/incredible-events-at-browserling https://catonmat.net/incredible-events-at-browserling (india and whatsapp), and as a slight contrast whatsapp-centrism in brazil: https://youtu.be/Wu9q5fb6MO0?t=1340 https://youtu.be/Wu9q5fb6MO0?t=1340 ). Some areas of the world, pragmatically at this point in time, may not be served better through mere 'open web' evangelism. In fairness, I make the same mistakes as the original author as someone who has works within an Apple-centric ecosystem and is in similar first-world social circles.
- yoz-y 7y ago
  > Maybe the name shouldn't include that, then? Why not? There are already a lot of resources for various other ecosystems. Should all PlayStation focused publications also include games for all platforms? Should Android Police talk about Symbian?