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I was just having an internal debate about the merits of a spending cap. I'm not usually one for such blunt regulation, but there really is no way to justify sp

I was just having an internal debate about the merits of a spending cap. I'm not usually one for such blunt regulation, but there really is no way to justify spending +$100 on mobile games daily unless an individual is addicted, deceived, or in some other way psychologically manipulated. Although society would probably benefit from similar caps in casinos, and I doubt that regulation will ever arrive be legislated.

djhworld 7y ago
I remember hearing about one guy asking his bank to essentially block any gambling transaction as he was an addict https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-45652429 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-45652429 Obviously there are ways to cirumvent that but it seemed to help him. I suspect it's harder to block these in app purchases at the bank level though, unless everything goes through Apple/Google pay and you block at that level
- weaksauce 7y ago
  you can block in-app purchases at the ios level using restrictions. i don't recall if the setting is a different password than the one to login to the ipad though. iirc it seems that you set it up when you enable restrictions.
- pintxo 7y ago
  In Germany you can set yourself on the black list of your local casino or whatever. It‘s a legally required feature. https://www.verspiel-nicht-dein-leben.de/spielsucht/spielersperre.html https://www.verspiel-nicht-dein-leben.de/spielsucht/spielers...
  - AdamGibbins 7y ago
    The UK has similar now integrated into various modern fintech banks: https://www.gamblingcommission.gov.uk/for-the-public/Safer-gambling/Self-exclusion.aspx https://www.gamblingcommission.gov.uk/for-the-public/Safer-g...
  - veddan 7y ago
    We recently got something similar in Sweden too: https://www.spelpaus.se/ https://www.spelpaus.se/ It's a blocklist that all licensed gambling companies in Sweden are required to respect. You add yourself to the list for a certain amount of time, and can't unblock yourself until that time has expired.
  - lozenge 7y ago
    This is true in the UK as well. Unfortunately there are new online bookies every week. The government also set a maximum amount of 4 video game slots machines per store, causing the number of stores to go up by 3 or 4x meaning that after self excluding from one place, you will still walk past many others as you go about your routine. Thankfully this is now being rolled back, as they have set a maximum stake that means most of these stores will have to close down.
  - tomjen3 7y ago
    Denmark has a similar system, except it is for all online casinos. Heaven help you if you’re addicted to the local jackpot bar.
- kzzzznot 7y ago
  Most gambling software has self-banning (for time periods) functionality also btw
EGreg 7y ago
Why spending cap be government enforced? Why not just have a second signer to increase a cap?

djhworld 7y ago

I remember hearing about one guy asking his bank to essentially block any gambling transaction as he was an addict https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-45652429 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-45652429 Obviously there are ways to cirumvent that but it seemed to help him. I suspect it's harder to block these in app purchases at the bank level though, unless everything goes through Apple/Google pay and you block at that level

weaksauce 7y ago
you can block in-app purchases at the ios level using restrictions. i don't recall if the setting is a different password than the one to login to the ipad though. iirc it seems that you set it up when you enable restrictions.
pintxo 7y ago
In Germany you can set yourself on the black list of your local casino or whatever. It‘s a legally required feature. https://www.verspiel-nicht-dein-leben.de/spielsucht/spielersperre.html https://www.verspiel-nicht-dein-leben.de/spielsucht/spielers...
- AdamGibbins 7y ago
  The UK has similar now integrated into various modern fintech banks: https://www.gamblingcommission.gov.uk/for-the-public/Safer-gambling/Self-exclusion.aspx https://www.gamblingcommission.gov.uk/for-the-public/Safer-g...
- veddan 7y ago
  We recently got something similar in Sweden too: https://www.spelpaus.se/ https://www.spelpaus.se/ It's a blocklist that all licensed gambling companies in Sweden are required to respect. You add yourself to the list for a certain amount of time, and can't unblock yourself until that time has expired.
- lozenge 7y ago
  This is true in the UK as well. Unfortunately there are new online bookies every week. The government also set a maximum amount of 4 video game slots machines per store, causing the number of stores to go up by 3 or 4x meaning that after self excluding from one place, you will still walk past many others as you go about your routine. Thankfully this is now being rolled back, as they have set a maximum stake that means most of these stores will have to close down.
- tomjen3 7y ago
  Denmark has a similar system, except it is for all online casinos. Heaven help you if you’re addicted to the local jackpot bar.
kzzzznot 7y ago
Most gambling software has self-banning (for time periods) functionality also btw

EGreg 7y ago

Why spending cap be government enforced? Why not just have a second signer to increase a cap?