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It’s been real. After owning 6+ Mac laptops for the past 15 years I’m out.

by reilly3000 7y ago

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microdrum 7y ago
Same. Just bought first Windows laptop in 11 years: Thinkpad Carbon.
- throwaway3627 7y ago
  :/ Thinkpad T480 (T490 doesn't) has the ports, is light, durable, is user-serviceable and 10 hours of battery life with the bigger extended battery (which isn't very big). Great as a hackintosh. When other manufacturers blindly copy Apple (like removing the dual batteries of the T series), they lose future customers.
  - accnumnplus1 7y ago
    250 nit. Fail.
cgriswald 7y ago
That's interesting to me, because this is the first product they've offered in awhile that could have drawn me back. The return of actual function keys being the biggest draw. Unfortunately for Apple, my Mid-2012 MBP didn't last long enough for them to get their proverbial scat together and I'm running Linux on non-Apple hardware now.
highace 7y ago
You'll be back for the trackpad alone.
- dghughes 7y ago
  I have to agree Apple makes a great trackpad. Most other manufacturers' hardware seems to consistently detect a movement as a drag action. Constantly detecting the wrong movement and drawing a box instead of moving the mouse pointer. It could be Windows OS that's bad or macOS that's good or a mix of OS and hardware. The Apple OS is nice but too restrictive for me. Windows I find is kludgy and bloated. Linux is nice if I can find the right distro.
  - umanwizard 7y ago
    How is macOS restrictive?
    - Baeocystin 7y ago
      In the same line as Ford's 'you can have your car in any color you want as long as it's black', Apple isn't restrictive at all! ...as long as you want to do things the Apple Way™, and only such things as Apple has deigned to allow you to do. Start wandering from the common path much at all and you just straight run in to walls.
      - umanwizard 7y ago
        Can you give an example?
        Baeocystin 7y ago
        Sure, one from last week: I needed to connect to an iSCSI target from a client's Mac. This has been easy to do on any Windows machine since at least Windows 7. OS X? No support without 3rd-party software.
        umanwizard 7y ago
        I don’t feel that macOS not shipping with a particular feature can fairly be called an Apple-imposed restriction, especially if you can get that feature from third-party software. There are plenty of things that you can’t do out-of-the-box on Windows but can on macOS, like SSH into remote machines.
- reilly3000 7y ago
  I don't disagree with that. Honestly I'm mostly desktop these days. I'm saving up a bit for a UHK, then will stick a Magic Trackpad 2 in the middle of it.
- wayneftw 7y ago
  Incorrect. I have every single touch gesture that I could possibly want on my Linux laptop (a lowly Acer E5 with Manjaro/Arch Linux and XFCE) and they work better and faster and with less annoyance than any Macbook I've ever used. Furthermore at my desk I use a vertical mouse with 5 buttons which is far, far better than any touchpad. I'm so glad to never have to use an Apple UI or rent one of their devices ever again! It's such a user-hostile ecosystem, but I don't really blame their users for having such a bad case of Stockholm syndrome.
reilly3000 7y ago
Seriously, they could have made NVME standard, charged more, and boasted about the incredible speed boost it provides. They could have even given it a cute name like NowDrive or something.

It’s been real. After owning 6+ Mac laptops for the past 15 years I’m out.

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microdrum 7y ago

Same. Just bought first Windows laptop in 11 years: Thinkpad Carbon.

throwaway3627 7y ago
:/ Thinkpad T480 (T490 doesn't) has the ports, is light, durable, is user-serviceable and 10 hours of battery life with the bigger extended battery (which isn't very big). Great as a hackintosh. When other manufacturers blindly copy Apple (like removing the dual batteries of the T series), they lose future customers.
- accnumnplus1 7y ago
  250 nit. Fail.

cgriswald 7y ago

That's interesting to me, because this is the first product they've offered in awhile that could have drawn me back. The return of actual function keys being the biggest draw. Unfortunately for Apple, my Mid-2012 MBP didn't last long enough for them to get their proverbial scat together and I'm running Linux on non-Apple hardware now.

highace 7y ago

You'll be back for the trackpad alone.

dghughes 7y ago
I have to agree Apple makes a great trackpad. Most other manufacturers' hardware seems to consistently detect a movement as a drag action. Constantly detecting the wrong movement and drawing a box instead of moving the mouse pointer. It could be Windows OS that's bad or macOS that's good or a mix of OS and hardware. The Apple OS is nice but too restrictive for me. Windows I find is kludgy and bloated. Linux is nice if I can find the right distro.
- umanwizard 7y ago
  How is macOS restrictive?
  - Baeocystin 7y ago
    In the same line as Ford's 'you can have your car in any color you want as long as it's black', Apple isn't restrictive at all! ...as long as you want to do things the Apple Way™, and only such things as Apple has deigned to allow you to do. Start wandering from the common path much at all and you just straight run in to walls.
    - umanwizard 7y ago
      Can you give an example?
      - Baeocystin 7y ago
        Sure, one from last week: I needed to connect to an iSCSI target from a client's Mac. This has been easy to do on any Windows machine since at least Windows 7. OS X? No support without 3rd-party software.
        umanwizard 7y ago
        I don’t feel that macOS not shipping with a particular feature can fairly be called an Apple-imposed restriction, especially if you can get that feature from third-party software. There are plenty of things that you can’t do out-of-the-box on Windows but can on macOS, like SSH into remote machines.
reilly3000 7y ago
I don't disagree with that. Honestly I'm mostly desktop these days. I'm saving up a bit for a UHK, then will stick a Magic Trackpad 2 in the middle of it.
wayneftw 7y ago
Incorrect. I have every single touch gesture that I could possibly want on my Linux laptop (a lowly Acer E5 with Manjaro/Arch Linux and XFCE) and they work better and faster and with less annoyance than any Macbook I've ever used. Furthermore at my desk I use a vertical mouse with 5 buttons which is far, far better than any touchpad. I'm so glad to never have to use an Apple UI or rent one of their devices ever again! It's such a user-hostile ecosystem, but I don't really blame their users for having such a bad case of Stockholm syndrome.

reilly3000 7y ago

Seriously, they could have made NVME standard, charged more, and boasted about the incredible speed boost it provides. They could have even given it a cute name like NowDrive or something.