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Chuang Tzu with his bamboo pole was fishing in the Pu river. The prince of Chu sent two vice-chancellors with a formal document: We hereby appoint you prime min
by danharaj 7y ago
Chuang Tzu with his bamboo pole was fishing in the Pu river. The prince of Chu sent two vice-chancellors with a formal document: We hereby appoint you prime minister.
Chuang Tzu held his bamboo pole still.Watching the Pu river, he said:“I am told there is a sacred tortoise offered and canonized three thousand years ago,venerated by the prince, wrapped in silk,in a precious shrine on an altar in the temple.
What do you think? Is it better to give up one’s life and leave a sacred shell as an object of cult in a cloud of incense for three thousand years,or to live as a plain turtle dragging its tail in the mud?”
“For the turtle”, said the vice-chancellor,“better to live and drag its tail in the mud!”
“Go home!”, said Chuang Tzu.“Leave me here to drag my tail in the mud.”
- lern_too_spel 7y agoHow does this story apply? Turing has no life to live whether he is on the notes or not, and somebody will be put on them.
- danharaj 7y agoIt would have been better for Turing if the government left him alone instead of chemically castrating him and driving him to suicide, then venerating him.
- pinkfoot 7y agoYou do realize it’s a completely different government? Indeed, it’s a completely different population - the castrators are quite dead. Unless inherited guilt is your thing.
- danharaj 7y agoIt's not about guilt or justice. That's not the point. But, of course, you're wrong. It's not a "completely different government", unless you think you're a completely different person because most of the atoms in your body have been replaced by now since your birth.
- Nurw 7y agoI think he means that it is a completely different government, not because just the people it has changed, but because the ideals and morals it represents are completely different. And the people it represents are completely different. And the methods it uses are completely different. And the land it represents are completely different. And so forth. I don't know how much have to change in order for it to be a different government, but I would say that the last 60 years have completely changed it. I would also prefer it if you would write down a bit more on why you are disagreeing with the first point and not just that you disagree, it doesn't seem very productive to me.
- hi41 7y agoI think when someone see the new note, they will realize a terrible crime was committed by society based on whom he loved. They will leave that path of unrighteousness and follow the path of peace and understanding. So yes, it is useful.