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Out of all the possible solutions, let's go ahead and choose the one that further destroys people's trust in our abilities to make sound decisions! /s Ridicul

Out of all the possible solutions, let's go ahead and choose the one that further destroys people's trust in our abilities to make sound decisions! /s Ridiculous.

romanovcode 7y ago
Not ridicilous at all. Same tactics have worked for many multi-national companies after huge screwups and it worked. Just a few examples: https://www.businessinsider.com/7-companies-that-changed-names-2013-2?IR=T https://www.businessinsider.com/7-companies-that-changed-nam...
- tonyjstark 7y ago
  United Fruits comes to mind, what a lovely company...
  - djsumdog 7y ago
    The mercenary cough I mean security company Blackwater rebranded as well. The School of the Americas (which is a US State Sponsored terrorist training organization for South and Central America) was rebranded to "Western Hemisphere Institute for Security Cooperation"
- ageofwant 7y ago
  Not surprising that you are being down-voted for stating the obvious. Boeing exhibits all the schizophrenic behaviour we come to expect from business as it stands in this age. And they will continue to do so as long as it maximises shareholder value, which is the only reason they exist. Sure, corp-cucks will blab on about social license and the like, but look at how the market judged them: A $100 drop from $450 to $350, and that's it. Two planes drop from the sky, killing ~350 people, subsequent investigations reveals Boeing fired their skilled engineers and to this day have not fixed their software. The share price barely moves. Why the fuck should they change anything ?
sametmax 7y ago
Immoral yes. Ridiculous no. People have a short memory and a strong affect toward symbolism. Marketing just pulls the desired psychological tricks to reach their objective. It works. Just like lying in politics works. Just like making corporate PR statements work. Just like in your face ads work. Just like showing boobs work. It will work as long as people are cruising in their life instead of trying to build it. It will keep working because it goes with the flow of our internal mechanisms, and it takes conscious efforts to not be influenced by it. And it will keep being used because the value of doing so it far superior than the cost.
- ableal 7y ago
  "It is worse than a crime,—it is a blunder" ( https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Joseph_Fouch%C3%A9 https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Joseph_Fouch%C3%A9 and https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Charles_Maurice_de_Talleyrand-P%C3%A9rigord https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Charles_Maurice_de_Talleyrand-... )
- 6gvONxR4sf7o 7y ago
  Immoral-as-the-norm is itself ridiculous.
  - sametmax 7y ago
    I tend to see bad apples just like tornadoes or forest fires. They are natural catastrophes, and they will always be there, not matter the society we build. The important part is how we react to those people. In that sense, I feel we are more responsible for the problem than them. Indeed, why blame a tornado ? Better learn to behave in case of one, and make houses the proper way. So I don't think we should focus on the immorality as much as we should make sure we create generations of persons than know how to deal with it: remember bad deeds, detect manipulations, choose what they consume, etc.
    - 6gvONxR4sf7o 7y ago
      You're absolutely right to focus on making sure we know how to deal with these things. The difference is that there aren't two sides to a tornado. We should also additionally focus on the people and systems that make this happen.

Out of all the possible solutions, let's go ahead and choose the one that further destroys people's trust in our abilities to make sound decisions! /s Ridiculous.

romanovcode 7y ago

Not ridicilous at all. Same tactics have worked for many multi-national companies after huge screwups and it worked. Just a few examples: https://www.businessinsider.com/7-companies-that-changed-names-2013-2?IR=T https://www.businessinsider.com/7-companies-that-changed-nam...

tonyjstark 7y ago
United Fruits comes to mind, what a lovely company...
- djsumdog 7y ago
  The mercenary cough I mean security company Blackwater rebranded as well. The School of the Americas (which is a US State Sponsored terrorist training organization for South and Central America) was rebranded to "Western Hemisphere Institute for Security Cooperation"
ageofwant 7y ago
Not surprising that you are being down-voted for stating the obvious. Boeing exhibits all the schizophrenic behaviour we come to expect from business as it stands in this age. And they will continue to do so as long as it maximises shareholder value, which is the only reason they exist. Sure, corp-cucks will blab on about social license and the like, but look at how the market judged them: A $100 drop from $450 to $350, and that's it. Two planes drop from the sky, killing ~350 people, subsequent investigations reveals Boeing fired their skilled engineers and to this day have not fixed their software. The share price barely moves. Why the fuck should they change anything ?

sametmax 7y ago

Immoral yes. Ridiculous no. People have a short memory and a strong affect toward symbolism. Marketing just pulls the desired psychological tricks to reach their objective. It works. Just like lying in politics works. Just like making corporate PR statements work. Just like in your face ads work. Just like showing boobs work. It will work as long as people are cruising in their life instead of trying to build it. It will keep working because it goes with the flow of our internal mechanisms, and it takes conscious efforts to not be influenced by it. And it will keep being used because the value of doing so it far superior than the cost.

ableal 7y ago
"It is worse than a crime,—it is a blunder" ( https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Joseph_Fouch%C3%A9 https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Joseph_Fouch%C3%A9 and https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Charles_Maurice_de_Talleyrand-P%C3%A9rigord https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Charles_Maurice_de_Talleyrand-... )
6gvONxR4sf7o 7y ago
Immoral-as-the-norm is itself ridiculous.
- sametmax 7y ago
  I tend to see bad apples just like tornadoes or forest fires. They are natural catastrophes, and they will always be there, not matter the society we build. The important part is how we react to those people. In that sense, I feel we are more responsible for the problem than them. Indeed, why blame a tornado ? Better learn to behave in case of one, and make houses the proper way. So I don't think we should focus on the immorality as much as we should make sure we create generations of persons than know how to deal with it: remember bad deeds, detect manipulations, choose what they consume, etc.
  - 6gvONxR4sf7o 7y ago
    You're absolutely right to focus on making sure we know how to deal with these things. The difference is that there aren't two sides to a tornado. We should also additionally focus on the people and systems that make this happen.