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Google is a profit-seeking corporation that needs to expand into China to generate more money and bends the knee as much as it can to make inroads there. Far fr

by rpiguy 7y ago

Google is a profit-seeking corporation that needs to expand into China to generate more money and bends the knee as much as it can to make inroads there. Far from being a source of truth they follow all Chinese censorship laws (why, because they would be blocked from operating there and unable to make money off of the Chinese). China likes everything about Google other than the fact that it is not a domestic corporation. A company does not need to be a monopoly to face Anti-trust measures made in the public interest. In the 90s you could have run Linux on a PC, installed Netscape on a PC, or bought a Mac, but Microsoft was still treated as a monopolist. The same with IBM in the 70s. There were at least five to ten other major suppliers of mainframes, but IBM was so dominant in the market that they were aggressively regulated for anti-trust. Google is not the victim of misinformation. Everyone is just starting to understand how important they are as the de facto gateway to information (regardless of choice) and mulling over the implications of it dominating add revenue, search, etc.

sidibe 7y ago
>Google is not the victim of misinformation. >Google is a profit-seeking corporation that needs to expand into China to generate more money and bends the knee as much as it can to make inroads there. Far from being a source of truth they follow all Chinese censorship laws (why, because they would be blocked from operating there and unable to make money off of the Chinese). China likes everything about Google other than the fact that it is not a domestic corporation. Whew the irony
- rpiguy 7y ago
  You are of course right. While I stand by my assertion that they have tried to cowtow to China in order to get into the market, their services are blocked and China has resisted letting them back in. Their efforts are likely dead or stalled with the death of Dragonfly. In any case, major memory malfunction on my part, apologies.
bduerst 7y ago
I saw Peter Thiel on one of the networks this morning pushing this message. The problem with his message (and yours) is that Google doesn't work with the Chinese Government. Dragonfly was shut down, and for the most part, Google is not even available in China. Thiel's criticism was that because Google wasn't working with the U.S. Government, and was operating in China, that Google isn't patriotic. Not only is this rhetoric a false equivocation, but it's dangerously wrong.

by rpiguy 7y ago

sidibe 7y ago

>Google is not the victim of misinformation. >Google is a profit-seeking corporation that needs to expand into China to generate more money and bends the knee as much as it can to make inroads there. Far from being a source of truth they follow all Chinese censorship laws (why, because they would be blocked from operating there and unable to make money off of the Chinese). China likes everything about Google other than the fact that it is not a domestic corporation. Whew the irony

rpiguy 7y ago
You are of course right. While I stand by my assertion that they have tried to cowtow to China in order to get into the market, their services are blocked and China has resisted letting them back in. Their efforts are likely dead or stalled with the death of Dragonfly. In any case, major memory malfunction on my part, apologies.

bduerst 7y ago

I saw Peter Thiel on one of the networks this morning pushing this message. The problem with his message (and yours) is that Google doesn't work with the Chinese Government. Dragonfly was shut down, and for the most part, Google is not even available in China. Thiel's criticism was that because Google wasn't working with the U.S. Government, and was operating in China, that Google isn't patriotic. Not only is this rhetoric a false equivocation, but it's dangerously wrong.