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> What we do have is peter thiel backing an administration that’s anti google, Russia, China that are anti google. Can you provide some context? Article does n

> What we do have is peter thiel backing an administration that’s anti google, Russia, China that are anti google. Can you provide some context? Article does not mention Thiel, Russia or China.

__s 7y ago
Foreign propaganda usually doesn't label itself as such. Nor does this article have to be from such a source. Merely inspired by the noise being made
- ailideex 7y ago
  Are you suggesting that we should discard criticism of google because Russia and China is anti google? China does not like Trump either, so should we not criticize trump because of China? And I don't even get why you say China and Russia is anti Google. They are anti-information more than anti-google. If google allows them to control what information people get they will have no problem with Google. They are further anti-west and are concerned that Google will play ball with western governments to give them access to Chinese and Russian data. Maybe I am missing what you mean by them being anti Google.
  - taf2 7y ago
    No - but I do think we should be sure we read deeper and question who's motivating a certain position. Ask is there a source of truth that can confirm someone's position. For example, I can see google's search business controls about 90% of the search traffic. I see browser usage around 63%. For advertising (google main source of income) I see they don't dominate they share market with Facebook and more recently a lot of talk about Amazon's position being strong to take more of that market. See: https://www.statista.com/chart/17109/us-digital-advertising-market-share/ https://www.statista.com/chart/17109/us-digital-advertising-... https://www.cnbc.com/2019/02/20/amazon-advertising-business-stealing-market-share-from-google.html https://www.cnbc.com/2019/02/20/amazon-advertising-business-... That said maybe my sources are not good? But it's better to think is someone being truthful or trying to manipulate me with a specific position...
  - __s 7y ago
    I'm not suggesting that. Nor am I saying China & Russia are anti Google. I was only responding to why your statement "article doesn't mention X,Y,Z" was missing the mark on taf2's argument

> What we do have is peter thiel backing an administration that’s anti google, Russia, China that are anti google. Can you provide some context? Article does not mention Thiel, Russia or China.

__s 7y ago

Foreign propaganda usually doesn't label itself as such. Nor does this article have to be from such a source. Merely inspired by the noise being made

ailideex 7y ago
Are you suggesting that we should discard criticism of google because Russia and China is anti google? China does not like Trump either, so should we not criticize trump because of China? And I don't even get why you say China and Russia is anti Google. They are anti-information more than anti-google. If google allows them to control what information people get they will have no problem with Google. They are further anti-west and are concerned that Google will play ball with western governments to give them access to Chinese and Russian data. Maybe I am missing what you mean by them being anti Google.
- taf2 7y ago
  No - but I do think we should be sure we read deeper and question who's motivating a certain position. Ask is there a source of truth that can confirm someone's position. For example, I can see google's search business controls about 90% of the search traffic. I see browser usage around 63%. For advertising (google main source of income) I see they don't dominate they share market with Facebook and more recently a lot of talk about Amazon's position being strong to take more of that market. See: https://www.statista.com/chart/17109/us-digital-advertising-market-share/ https://www.statista.com/chart/17109/us-digital-advertising-... https://www.cnbc.com/2019/02/20/amazon-advertising-business-stealing-market-share-from-google.html https://www.cnbc.com/2019/02/20/amazon-advertising-business-... That said maybe my sources are not good? But it's better to think is someone being truthful or trying to manipulate me with a specific position...
- __s 7y ago
  I'm not suggesting that. Nor am I saying China & Russia are anti Google. I was only responding to why your statement "article doesn't mention X,Y,Z" was missing the mark on taf2's argument