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This is a serious question, not a troll. I seriously want to know why someone would want to do this. If you want to run Gnome, just run Gnome. What is the diffe

by Apreche 16y ago

This is a serious question, not a troll. I seriously want to know why someone would want to do this. If you want to run Gnome, just run Gnome. What is the difference between running Gnome + GNUStep vs. just running Gnome normally?

jmillikin 16y ago
This effort allows GNUStep applications to share GNOME configurations (themes, menus, icons, etc). It's designed for people who want to develop Cocoa applications in Linux without dealing with the horrid-looking NeXTStep theme.
- rbanffy 16y ago
  I understand what you mean, but I don't think it's horrid. I would call it retro-chic.
  - makmanalp 16y ago
    I think you'd be one of the few. http://www.gnustep.org/images/full-screenshot1.png http://www.gnustep.org/images/full-screenshot1.png Why is the services menu popping up on top but not next to the services element in the list? What's the difference between the menu dock things on the top right and the bottom left, and why isn't it obvious? I love how the "25.54GB free" text is just floating about randomly in the file viewer. I can see the pixels in the gradient on the recycle symbol at the bottom right. http://www.gnustep.org/images/full-screenshot2.png http://www.gnustep.org/images/full-screenshot2.png In this one, why are the docks eating up so much screen real estate? On the bottom dock, I see two of the same yin-yang icon w/ squiggly, how am I supposed to differentiate? Nah, I think GNUStep's appearance is provably horrid.
    - jmillikin 16y ago
      I think the squiggly yin-yang is a "no icon" placeholder; presumably the user knows which is which. > Nah, I think GNUStep's appearance is provably horrid. GNUStep is the library; it doesn't have an appearance. You're objecting to the NeXTStep theme, which is designed to imitate the now 20-years-old NeXT OS. You can see a screenshot of NeXT at < http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/3b/NeXTSTEP_desktop.jpg http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/3b/NeXTSTEP_deskt... > Keep in mind that the main goal of GNUStep is to provide compatibility for a long-obsolete spec, so naturally the applications it runs are not up to modern standards. It's no different from Win95 applications running in Wine.
      - rbanffy 16y ago
        > to provide compatibility for a long-obsolete spec I believe contemporary Mac users would disagree about the obsoleteness of the spec. There is a lot of NeXT in OSX.
        jmillikin 16y ago
        That's so, but modern Mac applications can't run in GNUStep; Apple has added too many new APIs which aren't covered by the OpenStep standard.
        rbanffy 16y ago
        GNUStep is trying to catch up. http://wiki.gnustep.org/index.php/Writing_portable_code#Porting_from_Cocoa_or_OPENSTEP_.28NS.2A.29_to_GNUstep http://wiki.gnustep.org/index.php/Writing_portable_code#Port...
- Apreche 16y ago
  Why not just make a new theme? Integrating with Gnome seems a lot more work.
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by Apreche 16y ago

jmillikin 16y ago

This effort allows GNUStep applications to share GNOME configurations (themes, menus, icons, etc). It's designed for people who want to develop Cocoa applications in Linux without dealing with the horrid-looking NeXTStep theme.

rbanffy 16y ago
I understand what you mean, but I don't think it's horrid. I would call it retro-chic.
- makmanalp 16y ago
  I think you'd be one of the few. http://www.gnustep.org/images/full-screenshot1.png http://www.gnustep.org/images/full-screenshot1.png Why is the services menu popping up on top but not next to the services element in the list? What's the difference between the menu dock things on the top right and the bottom left, and why isn't it obvious? I love how the "25.54GB free" text is just floating about randomly in the file viewer. I can see the pixels in the gradient on the recycle symbol at the bottom right. http://www.gnustep.org/images/full-screenshot2.png http://www.gnustep.org/images/full-screenshot2.png In this one, why are the docks eating up so much screen real estate? On the bottom dock, I see two of the same yin-yang icon w/ squiggly, how am I supposed to differentiate? Nah, I think GNUStep's appearance is provably horrid.
  - jmillikin 16y ago
    I think the squiggly yin-yang is a "no icon" placeholder; presumably the user knows which is which. > Nah, I think GNUStep's appearance is provably horrid. GNUStep is the library; it doesn't have an appearance. You're objecting to the NeXTStep theme, which is designed to imitate the now 20-years-old NeXT OS. You can see a screenshot of NeXT at < http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/3b/NeXTSTEP_desktop.jpg http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/3b/NeXTSTEP_deskt... > Keep in mind that the main goal of GNUStep is to provide compatibility for a long-obsolete spec, so naturally the applications it runs are not up to modern standards. It's no different from Win95 applications running in Wine.
    - rbanffy 16y ago
      > to provide compatibility for a long-obsolete spec I believe contemporary Mac users would disagree about the obsoleteness of the spec. There is a lot of NeXT in OSX.
      - jmillikin 16y ago
        That's so, but modern Mac applications can't run in GNUStep; Apple has added too many new APIs which aren't covered by the OpenStep standard.
        rbanffy 16y ago
        GNUStep is trying to catch up. http://wiki.gnustep.org/index.php/Writing_portable_code#Porting_from_Cocoa_or_OPENSTEP_.28NS.2A.29_to_GNUstep http://wiki.gnustep.org/index.php/Writing_portable_code#Port...
Apreche 16y ago
Why not just make a new theme? Integrating with Gnome seems a lot more work.

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