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That the failing power of antibiotics is not a major national political issue says very bad things about our society.
by jseliger 7y ago
That the failing power of antibiotics is not a major national political issue says very bad things about our society.
- arkades 7y ago<s> Didn't you read the other front page article on HN today? Modern medicine is useless anyway. </s>
- splittingTimes 7y agoSaw it, but cannot find it again. Search doesn't show it and I checked the first 250 stories. It's not there. Did it get deleted? Do you have the hn link?
- arkades 7y agohttps://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20434325 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20434325 It's a puff piece for Stegenga's new book.
- Something1234 7y ago> Stegenga's Who is this?
- natrik 7y agohttps://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20434325 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20434325
- _red 7y agoThere is a certain disconnect between "warning about antibiotic overuse" and ignoring that the same selection pressures are exerted by vaccine use.
- stallmanite 7y agoGot any citations on that? I’ve never heard of pathogens evolving around vaccines.
- arkades 7y agoBecause vaccination creates a series of various antibodies that are not identical from person to person, and often target highly invariant portions of a target microbe. The GP just conflated two wildly different things. A citation is not likely forthcoming.
- stallmanite 7y agoThanks. My bullshitometer was going off but I’m not a biologist.
- perl4ever 7y agoI have no idea, but I Googled "pathogens evolving around vaccines" and got a couple of interesting hits. Here is an article about how vaccines cause evolutionary pressure: https://www.quantamagazine.org/how-vaccines-can-drive-pathogens-to-evolve-20180510/ https://www.quantamagazine.org/how-vaccines-can-drive-pathog... And here is a paper about how they mostly don't: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6304978/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6304978/ I feel like it's weird that people say something exists and then other people say no it doesn't without ever typing it in to Google. If you are that uninterested in the topic, why even post? Surely you can't reassure yourself about your knowledge that way.
- stallmanite 7y agoI did google it. I wanted to know what this guy would say about it. Don’t be an asshole Edit: Thanks for digging up references though. And I do feel the same way about people asking questions when they’re too lazy to search. In this case I had reasons to do so.
- zaphod4prez 7y ago