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NYC ships its garbage hundreds, and even thousands of miles in some cases: https://www.freshairfortheeastside.com/latestnews/2018/1/22/nyc-trash-trains https:/

NYC ships its garbage hundreds, and even thousands of miles in some cases: https://www.freshairfortheeastside.com/latestnews/2018/1/22/nyc-trash-trains https://www.freshairfortheeastside.com/latestnews/2018/1/22/... There’s even a poop train to Alabama: https://beta.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2018/04/20/a-poop-train-from-new-york-befouled-a-small-alabama-town-until-the-town-fought-back/?outputType=amp https://beta.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2018/04/...

heymijo 7y ago
> There's even a poop train to Alabama An NYC poop train bound for other parts played a big role in season 4 of the television show Billions. https://uproxx.com/tv/billions-stock-watch-poop-train/ https://uproxx.com/tv/billions-stock-watch-poop-train/
- dillonmckay 7y ago
  Poop != sludge
agumonkey 7y ago
What if we all used dry / compost toilets ?
- learc83 7y ago
  Dry composting toilets are not remotely practical for high density areas like NYC.
  - Tharkun 7y ago
    Hmm, that's probably a good point. NYC residents likely have little use for compost. And having to wheel bales (?) of dried poop out of your flat could get a bit annoying. Then again, presumably they already take out their trash, so maybe it's not totally unfeasible?
    - learc83 7y ago
      It's difficult to fully sterilize the compost, and it's very easy to end up with compost that is full of pathogens and parasites. With millions of people in a small area, I think that alone makes this idea infeasible. The toilets also don't produce bales of dried poop, the composting only partially completes in the toilet itself--it has to be completed outside in a compost heap. Also dry composting toilets tend to produce more odors than the average person wants to deal with in their small living space.
dehrmann 7y ago
Shipping by rail and sea is incredibly efficient. Some googling tells me rail is 471 ton-miles per gallon. The average American produces 1600 lbs of trash per year, so you can ship one person's trash for a year almost 600 miles with one gallon of fuel. Even long-distance trash transportation is a negligible contributor to someone's oil use.
- benj111 7y ago
  Could you not extract the methane, and run the train on it, and transport it for free? Poopetual motion? (sorry for the shit jokes)
  - thebluehawk 7y ago
    Sure, if you can invent a methane extraction process that needs no expensive equipment, has no maintenance, and is safe, then it would be "free".
dillonmckay 7y ago
Poop and sewer sludge are not the same thing. It is almost the last step in the treatment process, using a centrifuge to remove the majority of liquid. Some municipalities will sell the sludge, and it is spread on agriculture fields.

heymijo 7y ago

> There's even a poop train to Alabama An NYC poop train bound for other parts played a big role in season 4 of the television show Billions. https://uproxx.com/tv/billions-stock-watch-poop-train/ https://uproxx.com/tv/billions-stock-watch-poop-train/

dillonmckay 7y ago
Poop != sludge

agumonkey 7y ago

What if we all used dry / compost toilets ?

learc83 7y ago
Dry composting toilets are not remotely practical for high density areas like NYC.
- Tharkun 7y ago
  Hmm, that's probably a good point. NYC residents likely have little use for compost. And having to wheel bales (?) of dried poop out of your flat could get a bit annoying. Then again, presumably they already take out their trash, so maybe it's not totally unfeasible?
  - learc83 7y ago
    It's difficult to fully sterilize the compost, and it's very easy to end up with compost that is full of pathogens and parasites. With millions of people in a small area, I think that alone makes this idea infeasible. The toilets also don't produce bales of dried poop, the composting only partially completes in the toilet itself--it has to be completed outside in a compost heap. Also dry composting toilets tend to produce more odors than the average person wants to deal with in their small living space.

dehrmann 7y ago

Shipping by rail and sea is incredibly efficient. Some googling tells me rail is 471 ton-miles per gallon. The average American produces 1600 lbs of trash per year, so you can ship one person's trash for a year almost 600 miles with one gallon of fuel. Even long-distance trash transportation is a negligible contributor to someone's oil use.

benj111 7y ago
Could you not extract the methane, and run the train on it, and transport it for free? Poopetual motion? (sorry for the shit jokes)
- thebluehawk 7y ago
  Sure, if you can invent a methane extraction process that needs no expensive equipment, has no maintenance, and is safe, then it would be "free".

dillonmckay 7y ago

Poop and sewer sludge are not the same thing. It is almost the last step in the treatment process, using a centrifuge to remove the majority of liquid. Some municipalities will sell the sludge, and it is spread on agriculture fields.