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FAT is commonly used for removable media.

fortran77 7y ago
FAT is not a currently maintained filesystem that a significant base of developers, other than people interested in "retrocomputing" use.
- redis_mlc 7y ago
  Microsoft does maintain FAT, because they license it to consumer products companies.
  - ndesaulniers 7y ago
    Point is I'm not going to create a FAT partition on my disk then go work out of it.
    - darkpuma 7y ago
      Maybe you won't, but other people do. Dropbox and similar services have eaten away at the practice, but a lot of people still walk around with flash drives, partition table untouched since they bought it, with all their personal and work files. Not merely just using it to transfer large photographs or pirated movies, but keeping their de facto 'home directory' in that flashdrive. For a few years in the mid to late 00s, it seemed like almost everybody was doing this. Before that, I knew people who did it with zip drives. And I even once knew a guy who tried it with DVD-RAM, but gave up pretty quick.
- cesarb 7y ago
  Every single pen drive I've bought or been given came pre-formatted with FAT32. Every single SD card I've bought or been given came pre-formatted with FAT32. Like it or not, it's the standard filesystem for removable media up to 32 GiB, and has the advantage that unlike exFAT, it works everywhere.
  - darkpuma 7y ago
    exFAT is also case insensitive, at least in some implementations.
josteink 7y ago
And what about NTFS?
- ncmncm 7y ago
  About NTFS, the less said the better. ("If you can't say something nice ...") Even Microsoft is abandoning it as a place to keep source code. At least, their own source code. Windos is not built from a tree on NTFS because it's too slow.
- anticensor 7y ago
  NTFS is case-sensitive, Windows applies case-insensitive matching for reads by default.
  - anaisbetts 7y ago
    This is a super academic distinction that is confusing discussion more than helping. NTFS as it is used in practice 99.9% of the time is not a case-sensitive filesystem
    - anticensor 7y ago
      And a super-relevant distinction for a low-level OS/DB programmer like me.
      - anaisbetts 7y ago
        But not when talking about whether #include <version> is bad!
- anaisbetts 7y ago
  NTFS is also case-insensitive though case-maintaining, similar to HFS+/APFS
  - fortran77 7y ago
    Not true.

FAT is not a currently maintained filesystem that a significant base of developers, other than people interested in "retrocomputing" use.

redis_mlc 7y ago
Microsoft does maintain FAT, because they license it to consumer products companies.
- ndesaulniers 7y ago
  Point is I'm not going to create a FAT partition on my disk then go work out of it.
  - darkpuma 7y ago
    Maybe you won't, but other people do. Dropbox and similar services have eaten away at the practice, but a lot of people still walk around with flash drives, partition table untouched since they bought it, with all their personal and work files. Not merely just using it to transfer large photographs or pirated movies, but keeping their de facto 'home directory' in that flashdrive. For a few years in the mid to late 00s, it seemed like almost everybody was doing this. Before that, I knew people who did it with zip drives. And I even once knew a guy who tried it with DVD-RAM, but gave up pretty quick.
cesarb 7y ago
Every single pen drive I've bought or been given came pre-formatted with FAT32. Every single SD card I've bought or been given came pre-formatted with FAT32. Like it or not, it's the standard filesystem for removable media up to 32 GiB, and has the advantage that unlike exFAT, it works everywhere.
- darkpuma 7y ago
  exFAT is also case insensitive, at least in some implementations.

josteink 7y ago

And what about NTFS?

ncmncm 7y ago
About NTFS, the less said the better. ("If you can't say something nice ...") Even Microsoft is abandoning it as a place to keep source code. At least, their own source code. Windos is not built from a tree on NTFS because it's too slow.
anticensor 7y ago
NTFS is case-sensitive, Windows applies case-insensitive matching for reads by default.
- anaisbetts 7y ago
  This is a super academic distinction that is confusing discussion more than helping. NTFS as it is used in practice 99.9% of the time is not a case-sensitive filesystem
  - anticensor 7y ago
    And a super-relevant distinction for a low-level OS/DB programmer like me.
    - anaisbetts 7y ago
      But not when talking about whether #include <version> is bad!
anaisbetts 7y ago
NTFS is also case-insensitive though case-maintaining, similar to HFS+/APFS
- fortran77 7y ago
  Not true.