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Printers shouldn't be watermarking printouts and neither should Facebook.

by verroq 7y ago

harel 7y ago
They shouldn't, true. But they are. And have been for a very long time. People who require anonymity would/should/could subvert all those things. But just to give one example: if the daughter I don't have for example was to be targeted by some ex boyfriend posting private photos, I would like to be able to pinpoint the source of those photos. In the case of Facebook that tracking/watermarking is limited to stuff coming out of the FB platforms. Open any photo done with a digital camera and you can get a lot of information from the raw data as well. What I'm saying - a blanket objection of all 'meta' tracking data is not helpful - because it does and will keep on happening. Education on how to work around it when it's needed is maybe the solution. And in some cases, like the example I gave, that tracking data can actually be used to do good.
- verroq 7y ago
  No amount of tracking is acceptable in the same way the freedom of speech is absolute (no censorship is acceptable). You can say it is not a slippery slope but our rights are eroded when we compromise. If you need tracking you put the dots on your own print outs. There is no need to have dots on everyone else’s print outs.
  - harel 7y ago
    I do not approve of any printer that watermarks my printouts. There is no two ways about that. Tracking is a side effect of showing us ads. We will be shown ads no matter what because they pay for the services we get for free and the 99% don't mind them. Without tracking on the ad front we'll see random ads, they would be less effective, that industry will ultimately collapse and we will start paying for every single service we use. Again - I do not condone it, but I don't have the will personally to fight it or let it affect me in any way. When i want my actions to be untrackable, I will take steps to make them so. I would however like both the ad world and consumers to reach some sort of middle ground in regards to what is acceptable and what is not. They way things are now are out of balance in favour of advertisers. It should be corrected.

Printers shouldn't be watermarking printouts and neither should Facebook.

by verroq 7y ago

Printers shouldn't be watermarking printouts and neither should Facebook.

They shouldn't, true. But they are. And have been for a very long time. People who require anonymity would/should/could subvert all those things. But just to give one example: if the daughter I don't have for example was to be targeted by some ex boyfriend posting private photos, I would like to be able to pinpoint the source of those photos. In the case of Facebook that tracking/watermarking is limited to stuff coming out of the FB platforms. Open any photo done with a digital camera and you can get a lot of information from the raw data as well. What I'm saying - a blanket objection of all 'meta' tracking data is not helpful - because it does and will keep on happening. Education on how to work around it when it's needed is maybe the solution. And in some cases, like the example I gave, that tracking data can actually be used to do good.

verroq 7y ago
No amount of tracking is acceptable in the same way the freedom of speech is absolute (no censorship is acceptable). You can say it is not a slippery slope but our rights are eroded when we compromise. If you need tracking you put the dots on your own print outs. There is no need to have dots on everyone else’s print outs.
- harel 7y ago
  I do not approve of any printer that watermarks my printouts. There is no two ways about that. Tracking is a side effect of showing us ads. We will be shown ads no matter what because they pay for the services we get for free and the 99% don't mind them. Without tracking on the ad front we'll see random ads, they would be less effective, that industry will ultimately collapse and we will start paying for every single service we use. Again - I do not condone it, but I don't have the will personally to fight it or let it affect me in any way. When i want my actions to be untrackable, I will take steps to make them so. I would however like both the ad world and consumers to reach some sort of middle ground in regards to what is acceptable and what is not. They way things are now are out of balance in favour of advertisers. It should be corrected.