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I find the poll rather offensive: Should it be legal to snoop into your spouse's e-mail? -No way! Privacy is a basic right, even in a marriage -Sure, why not

by chops 16y ago

I find the poll rather offensive: Should it be legal to snoop into your spouse's e-mail? -No way! Privacy is a basic right, even in a marriage -Sure, why not? How else can I keep tabs on him/her? Why does the second option have to be framed from the perspective that anyone who logs into their spouse's email is doing so to keep tabs on them? What's wrong with a simple "Yes/No"? This isn't a webforum of friends joking around, this is a legitimate press entity.

electromagnetic 16y ago
I found it offensive too. My wife has full access to my email/facebook/bank and everything. Just this weekend my wife ordered something in my name and thus used my email. I don't see it as a problem. Like my wife said one time: "If you were cheating on me, I wouldn't know how to track it online." Not because she's not technologically adept, but because she's seen me using proxy servers and disposable emails that she knows I wouldn't be dumb enough to do it in plain sight. Just like it'd be moronic to receive love letter correspondence at my home address, it's moronic to receive it at my main email address. I'll also clarify further. The woman prosecuting is a moron for using her normal email address (with her password in a book next to the computer) to conduct an affair. If you don't try to hide it, you're trying to get caught. I'm sorry, I was computer savvy enough at 4 to start up a PC and use DOS to load a game. A 6-10 year old today would beyond the shadow of a doubt be able to access her email - therefore it was unprotected.
- rokhayakebe 16y ago
  The wo/man prosecuting is a moron for using her normal email address You would be very surprised. People leave traces everywhere, but I agree the first signs are not digital, they would be behavioral.
- lulin 16y ago
  You don't lose your right to privacy just because you are a moron.
  - electromagnetic 16y ago
    I'd say the traces on Facebook/Myspace/Twitter would beg to differ, but legally speaking you're right.
- tptacek 16y ago
  The poll is dumb. Me and Erin have roughly the same agreement. But if you don't have that agreement --- and especially if you're in divorce proceedings --- what possible valid reason can you have for accessing someone else's email account? Every time issues like this come up, somebody makes the point that someone else is a moron for {using a crappy password,using a shared machine,not knowing how to stop SQL injection,not knowing how uninitialized variable exploits work,not knowing to suppress all exceptions when decrypting untrusted ciphertext}. No. Unless it is your job to know these things, not knowing them does not make you a moron. The thinnest veneer of a security mechanism is sufficient to protect the privacy of your accounts under the law, which is exactly how it should be.
philwelch 16y ago
I find it easier to treat all "legitimate press entities" as tabloids until proven otherwise. It's surprising how much a heuristic like that sets your mind at ease.

by chops 16y ago

electromagnetic 16y ago

I found it offensive too. My wife has full access to my email/facebook/bank and everything. Just this weekend my wife ordered something in my name and thus used my email. I don't see it as a problem. Like my wife said one time: "If you were cheating on me, I wouldn't know how to track it online." Not because she's not technologically adept, but because she's seen me using proxy servers and disposable emails that she knows I wouldn't be dumb enough to do it in plain sight. Just like it'd be moronic to receive love letter correspondence at my home address, it's moronic to receive it at my main email address. I'll also clarify further. The woman prosecuting is a moron for using her normal email address (with her password in a book next to the computer) to conduct an affair. If you don't try to hide it, you're trying to get caught. I'm sorry, I was computer savvy enough at 4 to start up a PC and use DOS to load a game. A 6-10 year old today would beyond the shadow of a doubt be able to access her email - therefore it was unprotected.

rokhayakebe 16y ago
The wo/man prosecuting is a moron for using her normal email address You would be very surprised. People leave traces everywhere, but I agree the first signs are not digital, they would be behavioral.
lulin 16y ago
You don't lose your right to privacy just because you are a moron.
- electromagnetic 16y ago
  I'd say the traces on Facebook/Myspace/Twitter would beg to differ, but legally speaking you're right.
tptacek 16y ago
The poll is dumb. Me and Erin have roughly the same agreement. But if you don't have that agreement --- and especially if you're in divorce proceedings --- what possible valid reason can you have for accessing someone else's email account? Every time issues like this come up, somebody makes the point that someone else is a moron for {using a crappy password,using a shared machine,not knowing how to stop SQL injection,not knowing how uninitialized variable exploits work,not knowing to suppress all exceptions when decrypting untrusted ciphertext}. No. Unless it is your job to know these things, not knowing them does not make you a moron. The thinnest veneer of a security mechanism is sufficient to protect the privacy of your accounts under the law, which is exactly how it should be.

philwelch 16y ago

I find it easier to treat all "legitimate press entities" as tabloids until proven otherwise. It's surprising how much a heuristic like that sets your mind at ease.