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Nothing that agentofoblivion wrote hinted at him not supporting "doing right by our children". And nothing you wrote touches on what you think should be done a

• DoreenMichele 7y ago
  Suggesting people are simply born that way implicitly suggests that there is nothing whatsoever to do about it. "You lost in the genetic lottery. Sucks to be you." I'm saying it's vastly more complicated than that and it's a serious problem to frame the problem that way because it leads to a mentality of "Just lock them up or ship them out for the good of other people." This tends to deepen the problem. There are things that help. I know a lot about such things. I sometimes try to blog about such.
  • 50656E6973 7y ago
    Agreed, claiming mental illness is due to being born with a "bad brain" is dangerous pseudoscience. Psychiatry/psychology has zero proof that mental illness is due to "bad brains" or any such objective biological cause
    • chillacy 7y ago
      As with most things it's part genetic, part environmental, but enough that we aren't slaves to our destinies.
    • asfarley 7y ago
      Sounds like a failure of pschiatry. I don't accept the conclusion that faulty brains are 'unlikely to be the root-cause'. This is like a systems engineer stating 'this issue is definitely not hardware-related'. Maybe you have zero proof that it's hardware-related; maybe you need to work harder at debugging.
      • DoreenMichele 7y ago
        In this case, the hardware gets altered over time due to throughputs in the energy generating system, so isolating system failures such than you can conclusively state "it's a defect in the hardware that originated in the design and manufacture" is quite tricky, especially given the long life and myriad use cases of the hardware in question.
      • damnyou 7y ago
        The thing that distinguishes human brains from computers is that the software one runs (or is forced to run by circumstance) causes the hardware to change over time.
      • 50656E6973 7y ago
        That systems engineer would be stupid to completely rule out software related root causes to a bug that is only evident on the application i/o level when they have no tangible reason to do so. It's not only a failure of psychiatry, but also neuroscience. The scientific community is still very much in the dark in understanding how biology transcends into consciousness
  • dmix 7y ago
    So basically the solution to violent homeless people is to fix the parenting of people who will likely(?) produce homeless people in the future...by some gov policy which will improve their parenting and childhood by providing them with more services? A whole lot of parents could potentially fit into that category and only a few will have kids that both end up visibly homeless and violent. So that basically means improving services for low income people and other situations where a higher risk of mental issues can arise outside of lack of resources (plenty of homeless people come from middle class families due to things like domestic violence or mental illness by one of the parents or simply hereditary). Then you'd still need a way to deal with the 5-6 generations of homeless people who are currently in adulthood as well which seems to be the pressing issue in Seattle. It's possible both could be correct.