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The law is blind. The more we bend this the more our society breaks. Especially in the eyes of our children. Edit: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lady_Justice h

The law is blind. The more we bend this the more our society breaks. Especially in the eyes of our children. Edit: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lady_Justice https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lady_Justice

rolltiide 7y ago
> The law is blind. A) thats not true, what are you 4 years old? > Especially in the eyes of our children. B) oh you are trying to impress 4 year olds. Police officers have wide discretion, district attorneys have wide discretion, prosecutors have wide discretion, juries have wide discretion, judges have wide discretion. The laws they operate on and around can be dumb. We don't have a way for 4 year olds to understand that. A holistic approach is to address all of these simultaneously.
rolltiide 7y ago
Police officers have wide discretion, district attorneys have wide discretion, prosecutors have wide discretion, juries have wide discretion, judges have wide discretion. The laws they operate on and around can be dumb. We don't have a way for children to understand that. A holistic approach is to address all of these simultaneously.
- pteredactyl 7y ago
  Agreed. And you prove my point in a way. Our litigious (Edit: and racially preferential) culture is part of the issue. A holistic approach is a principled one. Clear laws are principled. For example, noise ordinances in SF say there's a violation if event or action is 10 decibels greater than the ambient. Or, if you push someone, harass a child en route to school, shoot up on the street, defecate on the street, etc. These are clear violations.
  - pteredactyl 7y ago
    The real question is, what do we do with violators? Especially those lost in the head. Adequate mental health institutions seems an appropriate start. But it also needs to be coordinated regionally. San Francisco and LA can not bear the burden of the western United States.

rolltiide 7y ago

> The law is blind. A) thats not true, what are you 4 years old? > Especially in the eyes of our children. B) oh you are trying to impress 4 year olds. Police officers have wide discretion, district attorneys have wide discretion, prosecutors have wide discretion, juries have wide discretion, judges have wide discretion. The laws they operate on and around can be dumb. We don't have a way for 4 year olds to understand that. A holistic approach is to address all of these simultaneously.

rolltiide 7y ago

Police officers have wide discretion, district attorneys have wide discretion, prosecutors have wide discretion, juries have wide discretion, judges have wide discretion. The laws they operate on and around can be dumb. We don't have a way for children to understand that. A holistic approach is to address all of these simultaneously.

pteredactyl 7y ago
Agreed. And you prove my point in a way. Our litigious (Edit: and racially preferential) culture is part of the issue. A holistic approach is a principled one. Clear laws are principled. For example, noise ordinances in SF say there's a violation if event or action is 10 decibels greater than the ambient. Or, if you push someone, harass a child en route to school, shoot up on the street, defecate on the street, etc. These are clear violations.
- pteredactyl 7y ago
  The real question is, what do we do with violators? Especially those lost in the head. Adequate mental health institutions seems an appropriate start. But it also needs to be coordinated regionally. San Francisco and LA can not bear the burden of the western United States.