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Teslas are selling like hotcakes. If the problem is that customers of the established manufacturers choose combustion over electric, it must be a deeper structu

by marvin 7y ago

Teslas are selling like hotcakes. If the problem is that customers of the established manufacturers choose combustion over electric, it must be a deeper structural issue. Such as e.g. dealerships downselling EV models due to lower maintenance requirements, and hence future profits. Or some other reason, e.g. (just spitballing here) that most of their EV vehicles suck. Maybe because of an unwillingness to cannibalize their ICE lineup, inability to build a good enough EV at a profit and at scale, or something else.

dsfyu404ed 7y ago
>Teslas are selling like hotcakes. Because the Tesla sedans combine the driving experience and technological features of a nice German car with the green points of a Prius so white collar professionals buy them in droves (it's the best of both worlds so of course they do). Basically all the other EVs are competing with economy cars and crossover mom mobiles where the competition is much stiffer and the buyers more frugal. Nobody buying a Tesla is saying "gee, I could buy an Accord and put all that money toward gas" whereas basically every Bolt and Leaf buyer is making that comparison to the Sonic and the Versa.
- codeulike 7y ago
  So then the question is, why are all the other EVs competing with economy cars?
  - clouddrover 7y ago
    They're not. The Audio e-Tron isn't, the Porsche Taycan isn't, the Volkswagen ID.3 isn't. The Porsche Macan won't be and the Audio e-Tron GT won't be.
bluGill 7y ago
Tesla selling well doesn't negate his point at all. Sure some people are buying EVs, but most are buying ICE. Part of it is lack of supply, but that doesn't mean increases in supply would mean more sales. It is possible the market is saturated with just the EVs for sale now. You can refute that claim in many ways, but none of them refer to current sales.
clouddrover 7y ago
> Teslas are selling like hotcakes. Tesla is hoping to sell 400,000 this year: https://www.fool.com/investing/2019/07/10/tesla-is-about-to-increase-production-output-at-it.aspx https://www.fool.com/investing/2019/07/10/tesla-is-about-to-... Toyota will sell over 10 million: https://www.jato.com/global-car-market-remains-stable-during-2018-as-continuous-demand-for-suvs-offsets-decline-in-sales-of-compact-cars-and-mpvs/ https://www.jato.com/global-car-market-remains-stable-during... > Or some other reason ICE cars are a lot cheaper than EVs.

by marvin 7y ago

dsfyu404ed 7y ago

>Teslas are selling like hotcakes. Because the Tesla sedans combine the driving experience and technological features of a nice German car with the green points of a Prius so white collar professionals buy them in droves (it's the best of both worlds so of course they do). Basically all the other EVs are competing with economy cars and crossover mom mobiles where the competition is much stiffer and the buyers more frugal. Nobody buying a Tesla is saying "gee, I could buy an Accord and put all that money toward gas" whereas basically every Bolt and Leaf buyer is making that comparison to the Sonic and the Versa.

codeulike 7y ago
So then the question is, why are all the other EVs competing with economy cars?
- clouddrover 7y ago
  They're not. The Audio e-Tron isn't, the Porsche Taycan isn't, the Volkswagen ID.3 isn't. The Porsche Macan won't be and the Audio e-Tron GT won't be.

bluGill 7y ago

Tesla selling well doesn't negate his point at all. Sure some people are buying EVs, but most are buying ICE. Part of it is lack of supply, but that doesn't mean increases in supply would mean more sales. It is possible the market is saturated with just the EVs for sale now. You can refute that claim in many ways, but none of them refer to current sales.

clouddrover 7y ago

> Teslas are selling like hotcakes. Tesla is hoping to sell 400,000 this year: https://www.fool.com/investing/2019/07/10/tesla-is-about-to-increase-production-output-at-it.aspx https://www.fool.com/investing/2019/07/10/tesla-is-about-to-... Toyota will sell over 10 million: https://www.jato.com/global-car-market-remains-stable-during-2018-as-continuous-demand-for-suvs-offsets-decline-in-sales-of-compact-cars-and-mpvs/ https://www.jato.com/global-car-market-remains-stable-during... > Or some other reason ICE cars are a lot cheaper than EVs.