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They already bent over backwards working around bugs in drivers the GPU vendors abandoned years ago to support 10 year old NVIDIA hardware, 7 year old AMD hardw

by opencl 7y ago

They already bent over backwards working around bugs in drivers the GPU vendors abandoned years ago to support 10 year old NVIDIA hardware, 7 year old AMD hardware, and 5 year old Intel hardware. And it still works on hardware older than that (at least on Linux) in spite of not being "supported". I don't know what else people are expecting them to do.

bilbo0s 7y ago
People are being unreasonable. It's free software and it's the best there is. Even a commercial software package that you'd pay 100's of dollars for would be worse in the compatibility dimension that the poster is lamenting.
- cellular 7y ago
  How much does 3d Studio max cost? I haven't used it since the 90s so even the name might have changed. I thought it was thousands.
  - lkschubert8 7y ago
    Last I checked its 1500 a seat... a year.
- Gracana 7y ago
  It's actually much worse. I use SolidWorks (parametric 3D solid modeler for mechanical design) and my company pays around $4k per seat, and it requires you to use a specific SolidWorks-certified GPU driver, which means you are forever stuck with whatever bugs that version has. It's an awful situation. My last laptop (Dell Precision M4800) had graphics issues with docking and undocking and sleeping and waking, but I couldn't update the GPU driver because it would break solidworks. Fun!
UncleEntity 7y ago
They bumped the OpenGL version up to 3.4 (or something) which means older hardware can't run it anymore--one of the main reasons I had to give up my Junior Woodchuck Blender Hacker hobby since I can't afford new hardware...
- Rovanion 7y ago
  I know it sucks, but at least it sounds better than giving up an entire hobby: Couldn't you just stay on the last working version of Blender?
  - UncleEntity 7y ago
    Not if I wanted any patches accepted ;)
- opencl 7y ago
  They bumped the OpenGL version to 3.3 which is 9 years old. I don't know exactly what hardware you have but there's some that supports newer GL versions on Linux vs Windows, i.e the integrated GPU in Sandy Bridge hardware only goes up to 3.1 in the Windows driver but the Linux driver supports 3.3. AMD Linux drivers support 3.3 all the way back to HD2000 hardware from 2007.

by opencl 7y ago

bilbo0s 7y ago

People are being unreasonable. It's free software and it's the best there is. Even a commercial software package that you'd pay 100's of dollars for would be worse in the compatibility dimension that the poster is lamenting.

cellular 7y ago
How much does 3d Studio max cost? I haven't used it since the 90s so even the name might have changed. I thought it was thousands.
- lkschubert8 7y ago
  Last I checked its 1500 a seat... a year.
Gracana 7y ago
It's actually much worse. I use SolidWorks (parametric 3D solid modeler for mechanical design) and my company pays around $4k per seat, and it requires you to use a specific SolidWorks-certified GPU driver, which means you are forever stuck with whatever bugs that version has. It's an awful situation. My last laptop (Dell Precision M4800) had graphics issues with docking and undocking and sleeping and waking, but I couldn't update the GPU driver because it would break solidworks. Fun!

UncleEntity 7y ago

They bumped the OpenGL version up to 3.4 (or something) which means older hardware can't run it anymore--one of the main reasons I had to give up my Junior Woodchuck Blender Hacker hobby since I can't afford new hardware...

Rovanion 7y ago
I know it sucks, but at least it sounds better than giving up an entire hobby: Couldn't you just stay on the last working version of Blender?
- UncleEntity 7y ago
  Not if I wanted any patches accepted ;)
opencl 7y ago
They bumped the OpenGL version to 3.3 which is 9 years old. I don't know exactly what hardware you have but there's some that supports newer GL versions on Linux vs Windows, i.e the integrated GPU in Sandy Bridge hardware only goes up to 3.1 in the Windows driver but the Linux driver supports 3.3. AMD Linux drivers support 3.3 all the way back to HD2000 hardware from 2007.