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1password seems to be slowly but surely inching towards pay-by-month model for all users, which is I assume great deal for them (persistent recurrent revenue!)

by smsm42 7y ago

1password seems to be slowly but surely inching towards pay-by-month model for all users, which is I assume great deal for them (persistent recurrent revenue!) but terrible deal for the user (once you are in, you are on the hook forever or you don't get access to your precious passwords). I've been a happy user of 1password for a decade. Looks like it's time to consider alternatives?

McDev 7y ago
>once you are in, you are on the hook forever or you don't get access to your precious passwords You can still view your passwords after your membership is cancelled. >Looks like it's time to consider alternatives? I've switched to Bitwarden and haven't looked back. It's not as 'shiny' as 1Password but they seem like a great company and everything works for me so far (using iOS, android, macOS, Ubuntu, and Firefox).
- callalex 7y ago
  I used to always think I would have a local copy of my passwords but that suddenly became not true based on someone else’s whims.
  - bwoodruff 7y ago
    Hi callalex. Ben from 1Password here. I'd like to hear more about this situation. 1Password does indeed keep a local cache of your data and even if you cancel your subscription you continue to have read-only access. Would you mind reaching out to support@1password.com to elaborate?
- smsm42 7y ago
  > You can still view your passwords after your membership is cancelled. You can now. But for how long? How long it would be until you need to reimage your computer or install it on other platform and new version would demand membership? The problem here is not that it won't work right now. It's that once this mode is not supported, even if it still works you're on your own. Like using out-of-support software version - maybe it works now, but you better to have a migration plan, or one day in the future you'd be in a big trouble with nobody to help you. And passwords to every site you have login on is not exactly the type of information you want to take risks with. You need to trust the provider they have your back here, and if they are not interested in supporting users that paid their licenses but are not providing recurrent revenue, then you better have plan B.
chrischen 7y ago
They are already at this point. You have to use the legacy versions to avoid pay-by-month. I'd happily upgrade and pay them for new features, but I don't want my usage and data to be held hostage by them if I choose not to upgrade.
- bwoodruff 7y ago
  Hi chrischen. Ben from 1Password here. We do support standalone licensing and vaults in the latest versions. Please reach out to us at support@1password.com for more details. We definitely want to encourage everyone to use the latest versions, which is one of the reasons membership is such a big push for us (as it includes access to all of the latest versions).

by smsm42 7y ago

McDev 7y ago

>once you are in, you are on the hook forever or you don't get access to your precious passwords You can still view your passwords after your membership is cancelled. >Looks like it's time to consider alternatives? I've switched to Bitwarden and haven't looked back. It's not as 'shiny' as 1Password but they seem like a great company and everything works for me so far (using iOS, android, macOS, Ubuntu, and Firefox).

callalex 7y ago
I used to always think I would have a local copy of my passwords but that suddenly became not true based on someone else’s whims.
- bwoodruff 7y ago
  Hi callalex. Ben from 1Password here. I'd like to hear more about this situation. 1Password does indeed keep a local cache of your data and even if you cancel your subscription you continue to have read-only access. Would you mind reaching out to support@1password.com to elaborate?
smsm42 7y ago
> You can still view your passwords after your membership is cancelled. You can now. But for how long? How long it would be until you need to reimage your computer or install it on other platform and new version would demand membership? The problem here is not that it won't work right now. It's that once this mode is not supported, even if it still works you're on your own. Like using out-of-support software version - maybe it works now, but you better to have a migration plan, or one day in the future you'd be in a big trouble with nobody to help you. And passwords to every site you have login on is not exactly the type of information you want to take risks with. You need to trust the provider they have your back here, and if they are not interested in supporting users that paid their licenses but are not providing recurrent revenue, then you better have plan B.

chrischen 7y ago

They are already at this point. You have to use the legacy versions to avoid pay-by-month. I'd happily upgrade and pay them for new features, but I don't want my usage and data to be held hostage by them if I choose not to upgrade.

bwoodruff 7y ago
Hi chrischen. Ben from 1Password here. We do support standalone licensing and vaults in the latest versions. Please reach out to us at support@1password.com for more details. We definitely want to encourage everyone to use the latest versions, which is one of the reasons membership is such a big push for us (as it includes access to all of the latest versions).