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Microsoft’s Azure Kinect AI Camera
- kiddico 7y agoYeah sure, throw Azure in the name. Fuck off with that noise.
- voltagex_ 7y ago>It’s meant to give developers a platform to experiment with AI tools and plug into Azure’s ecosystem of machine learning services (though using Azure is not mandatory).
- binarysaurus 7y agoAgreed. Doubt sdk will be OS/Linux friendly either. Previous Linux kinect drivers (libfreenect) were all community driven, it worked, but not as polished as the official stuff.
- desdiv 7y agoUbuntu is officially supported by Microsoft. >The system requirements are Windows® 10 PC or Ubuntu 18.04 LTS... [0] https://azure.microsoft.com/en-us/services/kinect-dk/ https://azure.microsoft.com/en-us/services/kinect-dk/
- vogtb 7y agoThis is really cool! Back in college I used the Kinect dev kit to build proof-of-concept special effects for live theatre as an independent study project. I used the Kinect pointed at the face of an actor off stage, ran the resulting 3D data points to some cool algorithms, and then projected the result onto a screen on stage. The idea was that, for example, in Hamlet instead of having an actor in make up play the ghost of King Hamlet, you could have this larger-than-life projection on stage. This camera is way better quality, so it'l be neat to see the sort of projects can be done now.
- ramraj07 7y agoDoes anyone know if this will work with Mac running Windows in pArallels? Really wanna tinker with it but stuck with a Mac :(
- takanori 7y agoI’m interested in buying one and doing a hack project. Anyone interested in brainstorming with me?
- kodachi 7y agowhat about something like this (holoportation): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7d59O6cfaM0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7d59O6cfaM0
- BubRoss 7y agohttps://azure.microsoft.com/en-us/services/kinect-dk/ https://azure.microsoft.com/en-us/services/kinect-dk/ Here is the actual Microsoft link just in case you don't want blog spam that is nearly unreadable on a phone.
- desdiv 7y ago>The system requirements are Windows® 10 PC or Ubuntu 18.04 LTS... I must say: I'm liking this new Microsoft. [0] https://azure.microsoft.com/en-us/services/kinect-dk/ https://azure.microsoft.com/en-us/services/kinect-dk/
- vinayan3 7y ago> 7th Generation Intel® Core™ i3 Processor (Dual Core 2.4 GHz with HD620 GPU or faster), USB 3.0 port, and 4 GB RAM. Raspberry Pi or a Jetson Nano are probably not gonna work... Seems to be x86 only.
- H8crilA 7y agoGiven Microsoft's stance on supporting "non-native" setups I think we should be expecting ARM Linux driver's if this device catches on.
- XzetaU8 7y agoMe on the other hand i remain very skeptical with the new Microsoft. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20412905 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20412905
- antome 7y agoIt's just a matter of following the money. A bigger and bigger slice of Microsoft's income is coming from Azure, and an increasing proportion of Azure users are running Linux. This gives them strong incentive to be the business leaders in open source software. The other increasing slice is services, where they get you to buy stuff from their storefront, or subscribe to their game pass, or office 365, or make personal interactions with Bing and Windows (so they can sell targeted ads). This naturally gives Microsoft the incentive to know everything about you.
- mulmen 7y agoFollowing the money is exactly why I am skeptical. As Linux becomes a revenue stream for Microsoft it will also become a Microsoft product. From the company that was built on Embrace, Extend, Extinguish I think that is cause for concern.
- joewee 7y agoWhat are some potential use cases?
- lozaning 7y agoI've been wanting to build gesture based control of my smarthome for a while.
- rememberlenny 7y agoThis would definitely be overkill. You could do that with 5$ cameras and some ML.
- JoeDaDude 7y agoMotion capture for animation comes to mind. Another is to project peoples' motion into VR space.
- tootie 7y agoClassic Kinect sensors are used extensively for gesture detection in the niche world of digital interactive exhibitions. You see them a lot in things like science museums or popup events or digital art gallery kinda places. This exhibit had at least a dozen Kinect cameras: https://nysci.org/home/exhibits/connected-worlds/ https://nysci.org/home/exhibits/connected-worlds/
- jsilence 7y agoThinking about using vision technology for small scale aquaculture stock management. Sorting the fishes by weight while eliminating the scale. Probably a conventional camera might suffice with a little bit of ML training. Length does not correlate well with weight in the fish species we are using, but a 2D picture of the fish body might do it. A 3D picture with the new kinect will do the job for sure.
- svd4anything 7y agoHow does it compare to iPhone sensors used for Face Id? I’m wondering if mounted to a workstation it could be used to implement a Face id system under linux.
- jeffchuber 7y agoyes. the hard part is implementing FaceID! Lots of papers on the topic: https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=0%2C5&as_ylo=2015&q=face+recognition+from+depth&btnG= https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=0%2C5&as_ylo...
- svd4anything 7y agoI was just checking specs on the two devices and it seems that the new Kinect depth even higher resolution, so it looks like a go in terms of raw input data. So my next question would be why would it be significantly harder than regular facial recognition approaches as found in say OpenCV, naively one would think more data makes it easier not harder, neglecting hardware requirements/performance, but just from accuracy perspective from a trivial refactor of current facial identification algorithms. I’m not talking about identification of people moving or far away but straight looking at from a fairly close distance.
- Paraesthetic 7y agoWell face ID is based on the technology of the old Kinect 1, so I'm thinking that Kinect will be quite superior to faceID. Presuming of course that we can get the right APIs working for it as right now its limited. Why is there no Windows Hello integration?
- rememberlenny 7y agoFrom what I understand, this is nice if you are trying to use multiple devices together. The Kinect's API makes that very easy with Azure (read: multiple cameras scanning a single location in real time, via a robot). If you just need the same sensors for depth, but significantly cheaper, then look at occipital. Link: https://occipital.com https://occipital.com
- modeless 7y agoOccipital uses structured light. Kinect uses time of flight. Completely different sensor technology.
- grrowl 7y agoThe "Order" link goes to a 404 outside of the United States/for languages other an en-us
- noen 7y agoI have 5 of these sitting in my office. The quality of image (depth and rgb ) is staggering compared to everything else I've used (zed, realsense, kinect v2, and a couple of others). They can be chained together for near microsecond timing accuracy. The mic array is awesome. The IMU is awesome. But right now I've set them all back in their boxes. Why? Because without being a vision specialist, there's nothing I can do with these devices. The SDK and sample code is so incredibly bare bones, it is almost laughable. There's no way to make use of those mics for anything. Its literally not in the SDK. There's no way to make use of multiple devices in any practical manner. No point cloud merging, no calibration or shared space alignment. Then there's the problem that buries deep in the SDK is a binary blob that is the depth engine. No source, no docs, just a black box. Also, these cameras require a BIG gpu. Nothing is seemingly happening onboard. And you're at best limited to 2 kinects per usb3 controller. All that said, I'm still a very happy early adopter and will continue checking in every month or two to see if they've filled in enough critical gaps for me to build on top of. If any devs in Seattle want to collaborate (or know computer vision well enough to fill in some of these gaps for the OSS community) let me know :)
- cyrux004 7y agoWhy did you get 5?
- synaesthesisx 7y agoI have one of these as well and exploring interesting use cases for the tech. If you don’t mind me asking, what do you have in mind for those?
- jbrooksuk 7y agoI remember seeing The V Motion Project [0] when it first came out. It'd be good to see other people approach this too! [0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YERtJ-5wlhM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YERtJ-5wlhM
- lionpixel 7y agoRight now the SDK supports body pose estimation without finger joints. Does anybody know or work on a model including finger joints?
- Paraesthetic 7y agoI'm actually the most excited I've ever been for a device in nearly 5 years, a number of months ago before they announced it I was wondering what would happen to all that old Kinect hardware and how it would be fantastic for autonomous vehicles and other similar applications. The Kinect 2 used to be able to read your heartbeat using those camera so the medical applications may be fantastic too. I loved the old version for voice commands for the xbox and the hand gestures were fantastic so very interested to see what will be done with these.
- beagle3 7y agoCan they be used as a kinect replacement for xbox360/xenia?
- sansnomme 7y agoHow does this compare to Intel's RealSense?
- nojvek 7y agoThis youtube video is definitely a chapter inspired/stolen from Apple's ads. Good on Microsoft though. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJglCYFiodI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJglCYFiodI