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How can the eyeballs in France view ads if there was chaos outside, and gangs started to cut internet cables? How can eyeballs view ads if they didn't learn fro

How can the eyeballs in France view ads if there was chaos outside, and gangs started to cut internet cables? How can eyeballs view ads if they didn't learn from French schools how to go to Google.com and enter search queries?

ars 7y ago
You missed the question. why is France charging tax to these particular companies? As opposed to all companies? Your answer makes no distinction between them so doesn't actually answer the question.
- mattmanser 7y ago
  The reason is because they setup their company legal structures to avoid paying tax, either in France or the US. Then the US every decade or so gives a money repatriation tax amnesty, effectively providing huge subsidies to US firms dodging all these taxes. So the government decided to setup a new tax they couldn't. Can't really blame them.
- marcus_holmes 7y ago
  that's the point the French are bringing up. French companies pay French taxes. Internet companies serve French markets, take French money, but pay taxes elsewhere, and often they pay no taxes because they can shop around to find a friendly tax haven that doesn't charge them taxes. This is only possible because internet. So, they're imposing a tax on companies that serve French customers via the internet but aren't based in France, so that all companies pay tax again. Does that make sense?
  - vonmoltke 7y ago
    Why isn't the solution then to force all companies doing business in France to register with the French government and pay taxes on the portion of revenues derived from France?
    - ElFitz 7y ago
      Considering only foreign ones (local ones are already covered), the first explanation I can find is that for most of them it would just be an expensive and pointless exercise. The time and costs involved to setup, maintain and enforce such a system would be ridiculously high compared to what it would bring in. Another answer (still only considering foreign businesses) would be that for companies making so little, the burden could be much greater, hindering their growth (and future taxability). And that's just from the tip of my head
      - bonzini 7y ago
        It's probably forbidden by EU regulations.
    - vnorilo 7y ago
      Then they would shift net profit to a more favorable environment, i.e. by paying some contrived royalties to the Irish sister company?
      - FennNaten 7y ago
        That's exactly what they are currently doing. Current tax law applies to profits, so they shift them to ireland.
    - bpfrh 7y ago
      How do you think the tax system works? As soon as you do business,you have to register yourself to the "tax office".. Now you structure you company in such a way, that the company pays more money for the trademarks of your partner company, than you make. Now of course, that is something a small company with 50 people can't do. So the company with 50 people can't make ends meet, and the company which makes 200 million, continous to make money hand over fist.
    - FennNaten 7y ago
      It is almost already the case. However, there is a loophole. To avoid crashing starting businesses, the current tax is on profits, not on revenues. What big internet companies like Google and Apple do is splitting their companies in several entities. One entity is making the revenues. The other is "administrative services". The administrative one, located in a low-tax country, bills (highly) the one that makes the revenues. So the revenues are made in rich european countries, but the profits are made in the low-tax ones. (The example is oversimplified, but you get the idea). This is clearly cheating, but it's legal. Europe didn't manage to close the loophole because of the countries who profit from it. And no single cheated country has yet acted because the US backs this behavior.
  - pyrale 7y ago
    > So, they're imposing a tax on companies that serve French customers via the internet but aren't based in France Actually, this would be unconstitutionnal. French companies meeting the criteria will also pay taxes.
- ElFitz 7y ago
  Because other companies are already covered by tax laws. They try fooling around with said laws, but for them it's illegal and they better not get caught.
- JAlexoid 7y ago
  Companies providing services in France typically pay VAT, corporate income taxes or similar. This tax is specifically on revenue that doesn't do that. (Not that I am a proponent of this tax)
  - AdrianB1 7y ago
    One cannot sell adds to French companies without paying VAT. That is plain illegal and there is no way to go around it, it's on the invoice.
50656E6973 7y ago
1. Satellites 2. You don't need French schools to learn how to Google things
- ripdog 7y ago
  Why would anyone advertise to french customers if there is no functioning french economy, and thus no money to be made there? How would french consumers pay for satellite access without a functioning economy?
  - Sharlin 7y ago
    The next installment of the Mad Max franchise will focus on a fearless Amazon courier driving around in the lawless postapocalyptic wasteland, delivering smart speakers and juice presses to scattered communities of ragtag survivors.
  - 50656E6973 7y ago
    >Why would anyone advertise to french customers if there is no functioning french economy Political propaganda/advertising is a great investment in times of choas/crisis. >How would french consumers pay for satellite access without a functioning economy? Use crypto currency or foreign currencies.

ars 7y ago

You missed the question. why is France charging tax to these particular companies? As opposed to all companies? Your answer makes no distinction between them so doesn't actually answer the question.

mattmanser 7y ago
The reason is because they setup their company legal structures to avoid paying tax, either in France or the US. Then the US every decade or so gives a money repatriation tax amnesty, effectively providing huge subsidies to US firms dodging all these taxes. So the government decided to setup a new tax they couldn't. Can't really blame them.
marcus_holmes 7y ago
that's the point the French are bringing up. French companies pay French taxes. Internet companies serve French markets, take French money, but pay taxes elsewhere, and often they pay no taxes because they can shop around to find a friendly tax haven that doesn't charge them taxes. This is only possible because internet. So, they're imposing a tax on companies that serve French customers via the internet but aren't based in France, so that all companies pay tax again. Does that make sense?
- vonmoltke 7y ago
  Why isn't the solution then to force all companies doing business in France to register with the French government and pay taxes on the portion of revenues derived from France?
  - ElFitz 7y ago
    Considering only foreign ones (local ones are already covered), the first explanation I can find is that for most of them it would just be an expensive and pointless exercise. The time and costs involved to setup, maintain and enforce such a system would be ridiculously high compared to what it would bring in. Another answer (still only considering foreign businesses) would be that for companies making so little, the burden could be much greater, hindering their growth (and future taxability). And that's just from the tip of my head
    - bonzini 7y ago
      It's probably forbidden by EU regulations.
  - vnorilo 7y ago
    Then they would shift net profit to a more favorable environment, i.e. by paying some contrived royalties to the Irish sister company?
    - FennNaten 7y ago
      That's exactly what they are currently doing. Current tax law applies to profits, so they shift them to ireland.
  - bpfrh 7y ago
    How do you think the tax system works? As soon as you do business,you have to register yourself to the "tax office".. Now you structure you company in such a way, that the company pays more money for the trademarks of your partner company, than you make. Now of course, that is something a small company with 50 people can't do. So the company with 50 people can't make ends meet, and the company which makes 200 million, continous to make money hand over fist.
  - FennNaten 7y ago
    It is almost already the case. However, there is a loophole. To avoid crashing starting businesses, the current tax is on profits, not on revenues. What big internet companies like Google and Apple do is splitting their companies in several entities. One entity is making the revenues. The other is "administrative services". The administrative one, located in a low-tax country, bills (highly) the one that makes the revenues. So the revenues are made in rich european countries, but the profits are made in the low-tax ones. (The example is oversimplified, but you get the idea). This is clearly cheating, but it's legal. Europe didn't manage to close the loophole because of the countries who profit from it. And no single cheated country has yet acted because the US backs this behavior.
- pyrale 7y ago
  > So, they're imposing a tax on companies that serve French customers via the internet but aren't based in France Actually, this would be unconstitutionnal. French companies meeting the criteria will also pay taxes.
ElFitz 7y ago
Because other companies are already covered by tax laws. They try fooling around with said laws, but for them it's illegal and they better not get caught.
JAlexoid 7y ago
Companies providing services in France typically pay VAT, corporate income taxes or similar. This tax is specifically on revenue that doesn't do that. (Not that I am a proponent of this tax)
- AdrianB1 7y ago
  One cannot sell adds to French companies without paying VAT. That is plain illegal and there is no way to go around it, it's on the invoice.

50656E6973 7y ago

1. Satellites 2. You don't need French schools to learn how to Google things

ripdog 7y ago
Why would anyone advertise to french customers if there is no functioning french economy, and thus no money to be made there? How would french consumers pay for satellite access without a functioning economy?
- Sharlin 7y ago
  The next installment of the Mad Max franchise will focus on a fearless Amazon courier driving around in the lawless postapocalyptic wasteland, delivering smart speakers and juice presses to scattered communities of ragtag survivors.
- 50656E6973 7y ago
  >Why would anyone advertise to french customers if there is no functioning french economy Political propaganda/advertising is a great investment in times of choas/crisis. >How would french consumers pay for satellite access without a functioning economy? Use crypto currency or foreign currencies.