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That's easy... make the batteries easily replaceable... oh wait.

makosharks 7y ago
You can replace the battery by going to an apple store, giving them $49, and then picking it up a few hours later. That's not a terrific challenge.
- capsulecorp 7y ago
  What if you don't live near an apple store? Why not let the user manage their own battery, that is also not a terrific challenge.
  - rhinoceraptor 7y ago
    You can ship your phone to Apple and be without it for about a week. Or, take it to a 3rd party repair shop.
    - capsulecorp 7y ago
      Exactly.
  - makosharks 7y ago
    How far do you live from an Apple store? How far do you live from a phone repair store? Stop concern-trolling just because you're a snowflake who wants every phone to be bulkier, heavier, and have a few more failure modes.
rhinoceraptor 7y ago
That would makes the phones considerably thicker and/or make the battery life significantly worse. I don't think replaceable batteries are really worth the tradeoffs given the constraints of a modern smartphone. Lithium batteries can be quite dangerous, so they need to be in a case to prevent damage that could cause them to catch fire. Then, the phone itself needs a battery door which adds even more thickness and potential failure points. Finally, once you have replaceable batteries, you give up water and dust resistance. I would bet that more phones have died of water or dust ingress than phones with dead batteries.
- stordoff 7y ago
  > That would makes the phones considerably thicker and/or make the battery life significantly worse. Would it? The Lumia 950 has a user replaceable battery: Thickness - Lumia 950: 8.2mm; iPhone XR: 8.3mm Battery - Lumia 950: 3000mAh; iPhone XR: 2942mAh I remain unconvinced that other phones couldn't be engineered to have a user replaceable battery. Water resistance is potentially a fair point, but iPhones have had non-user-replaceable batteries for far longer than they have been water resistant, and I'm not sure it would be impossible to do _both_ (Tile trackers have user replaceable batteries, and are water resistant up to IP55).

You can replace the battery by going to an apple store, giving them $49, and then picking it up a few hours later. That's not a terrific challenge.

capsulecorp 7y ago
What if you don't live near an apple store? Why not let the user manage their own battery, that is also not a terrific challenge.
- rhinoceraptor 7y ago
  You can ship your phone to Apple and be without it for about a week. Or, take it to a 3rd party repair shop.
  - capsulecorp 7y ago
    Exactly.
- makosharks 7y ago
  How far do you live from an Apple store? How far do you live from a phone repair store? Stop concern-trolling just because you're a snowflake who wants every phone to be bulkier, heavier, and have a few more failure modes.

rhinoceraptor 7y ago

That would makes the phones considerably thicker and/or make the battery life significantly worse. I don't think replaceable batteries are really worth the tradeoffs given the constraints of a modern smartphone. Lithium batteries can be quite dangerous, so they need to be in a case to prevent damage that could cause them to catch fire. Then, the phone itself needs a battery door which adds even more thickness and potential failure points. Finally, once you have replaceable batteries, you give up water and dust resistance. I would bet that more phones have died of water or dust ingress than phones with dead batteries.

stordoff 7y ago
> That would makes the phones considerably thicker and/or make the battery life significantly worse. Would it? The Lumia 950 has a user replaceable battery: Thickness - Lumia 950: 8.2mm; iPhone XR: 8.3mm Battery - Lumia 950: 3000mAh; iPhone XR: 2942mAh I remain unconvinced that other phones couldn't be engineered to have a user replaceable battery. Water resistance is potentially a fair point, but iPhones have had non-user-replaceable batteries for far longer than they have been water resistant, and I'm not sure it would be impossible to do _both_ (Tile trackers have user replaceable batteries, and are water resistant up to IP55).