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This study seems to very clearly indicate Diet Coke/Coke Zero is much healthier than Coke. There are tons of studies like this that concretely show how bad sug

This study seems to very clearly indicate Diet Coke/Coke Zero is much healthier than Coke. There are tons of studies like this that concretely show how bad sugar is for you, while most studies show that artificial sweeteners have no (or minimal relative to sugar) adverse health effects.

ttul 7y ago
Click-tssssssssssss there pops another delicious Coke Zero.
Chris_Chambers 7y ago
Study results are always skewed/faked based on who funded the study. He asked for answers, not propaganda.
manmal 7y ago
Diet drinks seem to not affect cancer, but the jury is still out on heart disease.
- cardine 7y ago
  I would agree that the jury is still out on diet drinks and heart disease, but it is pretty conclusive[1][2][3] that regular soda increases your risk of heart disease. [1] https://abcnews.go.com/Health/daily-sugary-drink-linked-heart-risk-men-study/story?id=15904276 https://abcnews.go.com/Health/daily-sugary-drink-linked-hear... [2] https://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2018-03/aha-dsd031418.php https://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2018-03/aha-dsd03141... [3] https://consumer.healthday.com/cardiovascular-health-information-20/heart-attack-diet-news-363/stay-away-from-sugary-sodas-spare-your-heart-743924.html https://consumer.healthday.com/cardiovascular-health-informa...
asveikau 7y ago
Some years back there were press articles citing studies (of course you can't believe what you see in the headlines) that claimed artificial sweeteners don't have the same affect on satiety as real sugar, causing you to eat more. That matches my one-person anecdotal observations, but perhaps that isn't much to go by. Find what works for you. I had much better luck with health and personal fitness by that vs. getting overly worried about what other people say works.
- djsumdog 7y ago
  This doesn't invalid that hypothesis. A lot of people drink a mix of both. Artificial sweeteners can confuse your brain/hormone systems and you may consume more other calories (studies show this in mice). We are more aware than mice though. Sugar is really bad for you .. really bad. Read up on keto diets (staying under 30g or sometimes under 10g of carbs per day .. limiting carb consumption to fruits with high fiber when you do eat them). I had a good friend who got on Ketro while he had cancer .. didn't tell his doctor, but within a few week a tumor shrunk by nearly a cm .. enough they could now operate. Sugar is a powerful fuel source and modern humans don't need very much of it at all. The findings of this study don't really surprise me. All that extra unneeded sugar can totally feed young cancer cells.
  - asveikau 7y ago
    > Read up on keto diets I politely decline. In 2017 and 2018 I lost 100 lbs in 18 months and the primary staple of my diet was pasta dishes. The low-carb thing is not for me. Like I said, find what works for you and ignore what people say is supposed to work. Today it is quite trendy to demonize carbs, tomorrow it may be something else, meanwhile plenty of healthy people eat lots of demonized items, but a narrow focus and overemphasis on good/bad may cause you to lose the big picture.
want2know 7y ago
Aspartame is bad for your in large quantities. The safe standard is 40mg/kg/day. So my guess it is safer than sugar. Claims that artificial sweetners are bad fall into the category of drinking litres of water in a short period of time.
- AstralStorm 7y ago
  Bad how? Please substantiate the claims. I remember the intake limit being based on some very conservative theory on handling excess uric acid.
  - want2know 7y ago
    Well I meant as bad as drinking too much water. When your weight is 70kg you can safely consume 2800mg per day. And that's a lot!
Skunkleton 7y ago
There is plenty of evidence that artificial sweeteners spike your insulin in the same way that sugars do[1], leading to adverse effects. [1] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3772345/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3772345/
- plopz 7y ago
  Are you sure that's what it says? It seems to talk a lot about psychological pavlovian responses, but I see this: > Artificial sweeteners alone do not stimulate insulin or incretin release in vivo > Unlike caloric sweeteners, artificial sweeteners do not augment insulin or incretin release in response to meals
sjg007 7y ago
I would drink Mexican coke over regular coke. This is sucrose vs high fructose corn syrup.

ttul 7y ago

Click-tssssssssssss there pops another delicious Coke Zero.

Chris_Chambers 7y ago

Study results are always skewed/faked based on who funded the study. He asked for answers, not propaganda.

manmal 7y ago

Diet drinks seem to not affect cancer, but the jury is still out on heart disease.

cardine 7y ago
I would agree that the jury is still out on diet drinks and heart disease, but it is pretty conclusive[1][2][3] that regular soda increases your risk of heart disease. [1] https://abcnews.go.com/Health/daily-sugary-drink-linked-heart-risk-men-study/story?id=15904276 https://abcnews.go.com/Health/daily-sugary-drink-linked-hear... [2] https://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2018-03/aha-dsd031418.php https://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2018-03/aha-dsd03141... [3] https://consumer.healthday.com/cardiovascular-health-information-20/heart-attack-diet-news-363/stay-away-from-sugary-sodas-spare-your-heart-743924.html https://consumer.healthday.com/cardiovascular-health-informa...

asveikau 7y ago

Some years back there were press articles citing studies (of course you can't believe what you see in the headlines) that claimed artificial sweeteners don't have the same affect on satiety as real sugar, causing you to eat more. That matches my one-person anecdotal observations, but perhaps that isn't much to go by. Find what works for you. I had much better luck with health and personal fitness by that vs. getting overly worried about what other people say works.

djsumdog 7y ago
This doesn't invalid that hypothesis. A lot of people drink a mix of both. Artificial sweeteners can confuse your brain/hormone systems and you may consume more other calories (studies show this in mice). We are more aware than mice though. Sugar is really bad for you .. really bad. Read up on keto diets (staying under 30g or sometimes under 10g of carbs per day .. limiting carb consumption to fruits with high fiber when you do eat them). I had a good friend who got on Ketro while he had cancer .. didn't tell his doctor, but within a few week a tumor shrunk by nearly a cm .. enough they could now operate. Sugar is a powerful fuel source and modern humans don't need very much of it at all. The findings of this study don't really surprise me. All that extra unneeded sugar can totally feed young cancer cells.
- asveikau 7y ago
  > Read up on keto diets I politely decline. In 2017 and 2018 I lost 100 lbs in 18 months and the primary staple of my diet was pasta dishes. The low-carb thing is not for me. Like I said, find what works for you and ignore what people say is supposed to work. Today it is quite trendy to demonize carbs, tomorrow it may be something else, meanwhile plenty of healthy people eat lots of demonized items, but a narrow focus and overemphasis on good/bad may cause you to lose the big picture.

want2know 7y ago

Aspartame is bad for your in large quantities. The safe standard is 40mg/kg/day. So my guess it is safer than sugar. Claims that artificial sweetners are bad fall into the category of drinking litres of water in a short period of time.

AstralStorm 7y ago
Bad how? Please substantiate the claims. I remember the intake limit being based on some very conservative theory on handling excess uric acid.
- want2know 7y ago
  Well I meant as bad as drinking too much water. When your weight is 70kg you can safely consume 2800mg per day. And that's a lot!

Skunkleton 7y ago

There is plenty of evidence that artificial sweeteners spike your insulin in the same way that sugars do[1], leading to adverse effects. [1] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3772345/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3772345/

plopz 7y ago
Are you sure that's what it says? It seems to talk a lot about psychological pavlovian responses, but I see this: > Artificial sweeteners alone do not stimulate insulin or incretin release in vivo > Unlike caloric sweeteners, artificial sweeteners do not augment insulin or incretin release in response to meals

sjg007 7y ago

I would drink Mexican coke over regular coke. This is sucrose vs high fructose corn syrup.