I have the pleasure of seeing him and Larry present _years_ ago on Perl 6's evolution. Their styles were polar opposites, but the comradery was fun to watch. I

I have the pleasure of seeing him and Larry present _years_ ago on Perl 6's evolution. Their styles were polar opposites, but the comradery was fun to watch. I often wonder where we'd be today if Perl 6 had got "finished" 10 years before it did...