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guys, the word is elicit To your point, i think there is no comparison. Famous athletes/artists have earned the public's trust due to being very talented and w

guys, the word is elicit To your point, i think there is no comparison. Famous athletes/artists have earned the public's trust due to being very talented and working hard. I don't think most social media promoters have earned the same kind of recognition and thus trust, especially when it is obvious from the get-go that they are going after monetization ASAP, they are not in it for the fun of it. It's not equally inspiring

bseidensticker 7y ago
It still comes down to an influencer is someone who makes content, shows it to an audience, and sells access to that audience. Some content is cheaper and more engaging than other types, thus leading to some people with a large amount of influence proportional to how hard they have worked. You might be surprised at how hard these people are working though. The field is pretty crowded, everyone successful has likely worked extremely hard to get where they are.
- buboard 7y ago
  > You might be surprised at how hard these people are working though. People have a distaste for people whose work is, however hard, to manipulate them. Same reason why they hate manipulative ads.
munificent 7y ago
> Famous athletes/artists have earned the public's trust due to being very talented and working hard. This is true, but is also crazy. Just because you can throw a ball or put some paint on a canvas better than anyone else — even if it took a ton of work to learn to do that — that says absolutely zero about any other worthwhile aspects of your character. Self-discipline does not directly lead to morality, kindness, empathy, charity, etc.
- buboard 7y ago
  apparently people associate it. also , it's the repeated aspect of it, familiarity, and often exposure and publicity of other sides of athletes.
unreal37 7y ago
That's a pretty broad generalization. You don't know how hard some people work. Some athletes drink all night, do drugs, skip practice, and show up to work the next day and score a goal. Is that working hard? Some "influencers" spend 20 hours per day/7 days per week working on their business. Is that working hard? You don't know how hard some of them work.
seventhtiger 7y ago
It's not accurate to say influencers don't work very hard. Some of them are also genuinely talented. It's just that they're talented at and work hard at something people here don't value: popularity. The illusion that popularity is just a byproduct of important work matters to the credibility of being famous. Influencers just throw that away. When I asked my sister why she just called a girl at her school "famous" she said because she has 100k+ followers. So she is famous for being famous.
- buboard 7y ago
  > It's just that they're talented at and work hard at something people here don't value: popularity. Rightly so. It is easy to gain popularity by appealing to people's lower insticts or by being ridiculous. Maybe the top 10 "famous for being famous" persons really did put extraordinary effort , but i think it's much less true for everyone else, otherwise they would be famous for something else. And even if it is true, it's not the kind of work that ppl value a lot. It's one thing to be famous as a Kardashian, another to be famous as Maria Callas or Madonna
  - seventhtiger 7y ago
    As devil's advocate, think of how many women have sex tapes out there, and think of how many of them built a billion dollar empire on it. What is being one more pop star in comparison? There are types of great effort which produce zero value and are only judged subjectively. I really respect the guy putting Doom on his microwave, but to most people that is a completely pointless exercise. I suspect popularity is like that. I laugh at the girls taking 400 selfies standing in front of a bridge, to post just one on Instagram, but I can't deny there is some effort and skill going on there.

bseidensticker 7y ago

It still comes down to an influencer is someone who makes content, shows it to an audience, and sells access to that audience. Some content is cheaper and more engaging than other types, thus leading to some people with a large amount of influence proportional to how hard they have worked. You might be surprised at how hard these people are working though. The field is pretty crowded, everyone successful has likely worked extremely hard to get where they are.

buboard 7y ago
> You might be surprised at how hard these people are working though. People have a distaste for people whose work is, however hard, to manipulate them. Same reason why they hate manipulative ads.

munificent 7y ago

> Famous athletes/artists have earned the public's trust due to being very talented and working hard. This is true, but is also crazy. Just because you can throw a ball or put some paint on a canvas better than anyone else — even if it took a ton of work to learn to do that — that says absolutely zero about any other worthwhile aspects of your character. Self-discipline does not directly lead to morality, kindness, empathy, charity, etc.

buboard 7y ago
apparently people associate it. also , it's the repeated aspect of it, familiarity, and often exposure and publicity of other sides of athletes.

unreal37 7y ago

That's a pretty broad generalization. You don't know how hard some people work. Some athletes drink all night, do drugs, skip practice, and show up to work the next day and score a goal. Is that working hard? Some "influencers" spend 20 hours per day/7 days per week working on their business. Is that working hard? You don't know how hard some of them work.

seventhtiger 7y ago

It's not accurate to say influencers don't work very hard. Some of them are also genuinely talented. It's just that they're talented at and work hard at something people here don't value: popularity. The illusion that popularity is just a byproduct of important work matters to the credibility of being famous. Influencers just throw that away. When I asked my sister why she just called a girl at her school "famous" she said because she has 100k+ followers. So she is famous for being famous.

buboard 7y ago
> It's just that they're talented at and work hard at something people here don't value: popularity. Rightly so. It is easy to gain popularity by appealing to people's lower insticts or by being ridiculous. Maybe the top 10 "famous for being famous" persons really did put extraordinary effort , but i think it's much less true for everyone else, otherwise they would be famous for something else. And even if it is true, it's not the kind of work that ppl value a lot. It's one thing to be famous as a Kardashian, another to be famous as Maria Callas or Madonna
- seventhtiger 7y ago
  As devil's advocate, think of how many women have sex tapes out there, and think of how many of them built a billion dollar empire on it. What is being one more pop star in comparison? There are types of great effort which produce zero value and are only judged subjectively. I really respect the guy putting Doom on his microwave, but to most people that is a completely pointless exercise. I suspect popularity is like that. I laugh at the girls taking 400 selfies standing in front of a bridge, to post just one on Instagram, but I can't deny there is some effort and skill going on there.