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Like we've reacted when scientists told us about rising co2 levels 30 or 40 years ago?
by 6d6b73 7y ago
Like we've reacted when scientists told us about rising co2 levels 30 or 40 years ago?
- SwellJoe 7y agoI don't think I understand your position here. Do you believe there is a profit motive to doing this kind of carbon sequestration? As I understand it, it's going to be expensive to do, and require significant money/time/effort to keep doing it. So, what will keep it going in your runaway scenario? Why will people keep mining and moving these materials into place beyond the point where it is necessary to counter our current crisis?
- 6d6b73 7y agoI was talking about possibility of having multiple projects run by different countries/non-profits at the same time, without any coordination, and messing up the climate even more. Why is that so controversial?
- SwellJoe 7y agoI think it's an unpopular opinion because there's no evidence that states will "over-do" any climate action. So far, climate action is almost entirely theoretical. States are doing effectively nothing to counter climate change. One might even argue they're doing less than nothing, by continuing to allow externalizing costs of fossil fuels, animal agriculture, etc. It seems implausible that there would be too much action on climate change, because there is currently effectively none. Maybe your theory will seem more believable if any major climate action takes place. But, given the costs and current inertia in the other direction, I don't think it is a realistic problem to worry about today.
- 6d6b73 7y agotrue, but maybe we're in the mess simply because we don't worry about long term effects of our actions.
- SwellJoe 7y agoClimate change is the result of (mostly) unregulated profit-seeking. Not merely a lack of worry about long-term effects of our actions. It isn't accidental...we knew decades ago that there were consequences, but a few people with a lot of money bought policies ignoring the problem (from willing politicians worldwide). There is a profit motive behind our climate catastrophe, not "oops, I forgot to turn off the climate change machine when I left the house".
- 6d6b73 7y agoAnd you don't think there is no profit motive in the current "global warming industry"?
- SwellJoe 7y agoI thought we were having a serious/sincere conversation.
- 6d6b73 7y agoWe are - I'm not saying that most people want to do the right thing, but there is also bunch of them that use global warming as a way to make a quick buck. I hope you don't believe that one side of the debate is all good and another one is all bad..
- SwellJoe 7y agoThat doesn't make any sense, and I don't see any evidence that people are (or could) use global warming to "make a quick buck". "I hope you don't believe that one side of the debate is all good and another one is all bad.." What "sides" do you believe we're talking about here?