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I think conan has real potential when it comes to package management Some example of what can be done with it https://gitlab.com/xadix/xonan https://gitlab.com

I think conan has real potential when it comes to package management Some example of what can be done with it https://gitlab.com/xadix/xonan https://gitlab.com/xadix/xonan It is kind of like gentoo portage or nix pkg and can be used to manage your tool chain also

plq 7y ago
I don't get conan. Portage can already create a linux root in your homedir (see the prefix project) and has a huge package repo. What am I missing?
- pjmlp 7y ago
  Portage doesn't work across Windows, QNX, IBM i, IBM z, Android, iOS, macOS, mbed, RTOS, ClearPath, Aix, HP-UX, INTEGRITY, FreeBSD, NetBSD, OpenBSD, PS4, Switch, XBox, Tizen,...
- ailideex 7y ago
  In addition to what other response said it also lacked binary caching last I checked
ComputerGuru 7y ago
I find vcpkg to be a much more well thought out solution, or at least did at the time I was doing research into suggesting one for neovim during that discussion. It was clearly developed by a team that’s been around the proverbial dependency management block a few times, and offered more accommodations for working with existing codebases than Conan did.
- colatkinson 7y ago
  I could be wrong, but conan's "killer feature" is its integration with traditional artifact management solutions. Using it with Nexus (which also takes care of PyPI, npm, and basically every other binary package type under the sun) is fairly smooth sailing. vcpkg, on the other hand, as far as I know only exports to nuget and compressed archives. Nuget is great and all if you're purely in MS land, but otherwise... not so much. And with compressed archives, you're kinda on your own w.r.t versioning and so on. That being said, I'm much more familiar with conan, so please correct me if I'm wrong. Additionally, conan, being configurable via normal Python code (for better or worse), can really hack together pretty much any codebase (I've used it with autotools, MSBuild, CMake, and even Xcode). I will definitely agree that the vcpkg team does ultimately seem to be more experienced, and it's a more polished tool (the conan docs are... lacking in areas, and updating conan will occasionally break things). It'll be interesting to see the direction both tools go in the future, as I would really like cross-platform C++ dependency management to stop being a total PITA.

plq 7y ago

I don't get conan. Portage can already create a linux root in your homedir (see the prefix project) and has a huge package repo. What am I missing?

pjmlp 7y ago
Portage doesn't work across Windows, QNX, IBM i, IBM z, Android, iOS, macOS, mbed, RTOS, ClearPath, Aix, HP-UX, INTEGRITY, FreeBSD, NetBSD, OpenBSD, PS4, Switch, XBox, Tizen,...
ailideex 7y ago
In addition to what other response said it also lacked binary caching last I checked

ComputerGuru 7y ago

I find vcpkg to be a much more well thought out solution, or at least did at the time I was doing research into suggesting one for neovim during that discussion. It was clearly developed by a team that’s been around the proverbial dependency management block a few times, and offered more accommodations for working with existing codebases than Conan did.

colatkinson 7y ago
I could be wrong, but conan's "killer feature" is its integration with traditional artifact management solutions. Using it with Nexus (which also takes care of PyPI, npm, and basically every other binary package type under the sun) is fairly smooth sailing. vcpkg, on the other hand, as far as I know only exports to nuget and compressed archives. Nuget is great and all if you're purely in MS land, but otherwise... not so much. And with compressed archives, you're kinda on your own w.r.t versioning and so on. That being said, I'm much more familiar with conan, so please correct me if I'm wrong. Additionally, conan, being configurable via normal Python code (for better or worse), can really hack together pretty much any codebase (I've used it with autotools, MSBuild, CMake, and even Xcode). I will definitely agree that the vcpkg team does ultimately seem to be more experienced, and it's a more polished tool (the conan docs are... lacking in areas, and updating conan will occasionally break things). It'll be interesting to see the direction both tools go in the future, as I would really like cross-platform C++ dependency management to stop being a total PITA.