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Yes, but not UFOs as in aliens. UFOs as in there's a ton of unidentified aircraft in any given airspace that no one is claiming responsibility for. This is happ

Yes, but not UFOs as in aliens. UFOs as in there's a ton of unidentified aircraft in any given airspace that no one is claiming responsibility for. This is happening because the US Navy recently released a bunch of UFO info to the public and admitted that UFO encounters are a pretty frequent occurrence for Navy pilots (again, not in the aliens sense).

dTal 7y ago
Bearing in mind that this is the same Navy that apparently has such difficulty seeing other ships that they ram into them on a regular basis. There is such an institutional culture of sleep deprivation that it's not really surprising they have a high incident rate for this sort of thing.
- kuzehanka 7y ago
  I don't understand what you're getting at. They have a large number of recorded UFO incidents with captured evidence, usually from the aircraft instrumentation itself. If you're trying to imply they're imagining it due to sleep deprivation, that's a bit crass. We're talking about stuff like this: https://www.nytimes.com/video/us/100000005607812/look-at-that-thing-us-navy-jet-encounters-unknown-object.html https://www.nytimes.com/video/us/100000005607812/look-at-tha... Could be a falling piece of debris, could be evil space aliens, they don't know what it is - hence UFO.
  - dTal 7y ago
    Not imagining it, as such. There are many odd optical phenomena when flying in the sky - specular reflections may present as moving objects, and small close objects can easily be mistaken for large distant ones. It takes some measure of critical thinking to identify these things at the time, and it's not always possible to reconstruct what they were afterwards. Sleep deprivation will sap this critical thinking ability. Lest you think I'm being unfair, consider your link; that's clearly dirt in the lens. The clue? The camera wobbles at the precise instant the "object" rotates, on several occasions. What you're seeing is a gimbaled camera with software auto-leveling; the camera rotates, and the dirt with it. You see a similar phenomenon in other UFO videos that seem to show the UFO "suddenly accelerating" at the end - the camera gimbal reaches the end of its travel, and the object is yanked out of shot. The Navy has the resources to check for dirt on a lens before they release a video like this. I maintain that the quantity of UFO videos coming out of the Navy tells us more about the Navy than about UFOs.
    - injb 7y ago
      >Lest you think I'm being unfair, consider your link; that's clearly dirt in the lens. The clue? The camera wobbles at the precise instant the "object" rotates, on several occasions. What you're seeing is a gimbaled camera with software auto-leveling; the camera rotates, and the dirt with it. You can clearly see that the object rotates at a different rate to the camera. You can also see the targeting box adjust itself as the object rotates. Also I can only presume you think the audio is fake, given what the pilots say about there being a "fleet of them" on the SA display, and the comment about them moving into the wind?
    - kuzehanka 7y ago
      > Lest you think I'm being unfair, consider your link; that's clearly dirt in the lens. Mate, it's an object being tracked by multiple planes with multiple cameras (more footage of this incident on youtube), two of which are shown in the video (ir and visual). The only reason it's being tracked at all is because they had RADAR lock on it, as indicated by the two vertical lines encompassing it on the display. The reason it appears to be 'stuck' to the view is because the tracking system is that good. Spend 5 minutes picking up a cursory understanding of a topic before confidently stating outright silliness. Here, see another one and watch how the RADAR symbology works when the pilot gets a lock. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Fd6ssvcBoM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Fd6ssvcBoM

dTal 7y ago

Bearing in mind that this is the same Navy that apparently has such difficulty seeing other ships that they ram into them on a regular basis. There is such an institutional culture of sleep deprivation that it's not really surprising they have a high incident rate for this sort of thing.

kuzehanka 7y ago
I don't understand what you're getting at. They have a large number of recorded UFO incidents with captured evidence, usually from the aircraft instrumentation itself. If you're trying to imply they're imagining it due to sleep deprivation, that's a bit crass. We're talking about stuff like this: https://www.nytimes.com/video/us/100000005607812/look-at-that-thing-us-navy-jet-encounters-unknown-object.html https://www.nytimes.com/video/us/100000005607812/look-at-tha... Could be a falling piece of debris, could be evil space aliens, they don't know what it is - hence UFO.
- dTal 7y ago
  Not imagining it, as such. There are many odd optical phenomena when flying in the sky - specular reflections may present as moving objects, and small close objects can easily be mistaken for large distant ones. It takes some measure of critical thinking to identify these things at the time, and it's not always possible to reconstruct what they were afterwards. Sleep deprivation will sap this critical thinking ability. Lest you think I'm being unfair, consider your link; that's clearly dirt in the lens. The clue? The camera wobbles at the precise instant the "object" rotates, on several occasions. What you're seeing is a gimbaled camera with software auto-leveling; the camera rotates, and the dirt with it. You see a similar phenomenon in other UFO videos that seem to show the UFO "suddenly accelerating" at the end - the camera gimbal reaches the end of its travel, and the object is yanked out of shot. The Navy has the resources to check for dirt on a lens before they release a video like this. I maintain that the quantity of UFO videos coming out of the Navy tells us more about the Navy than about UFOs.
  - injb 7y ago
    >Lest you think I'm being unfair, consider your link; that's clearly dirt in the lens. The clue? The camera wobbles at the precise instant the "object" rotates, on several occasions. What you're seeing is a gimbaled camera with software auto-leveling; the camera rotates, and the dirt with it. You can clearly see that the object rotates at a different rate to the camera. You can also see the targeting box adjust itself as the object rotates. Also I can only presume you think the audio is fake, given what the pilots say about there being a "fleet of them" on the SA display, and the comment about them moving into the wind?
  - kuzehanka 7y ago
    > Lest you think I'm being unfair, consider your link; that's clearly dirt in the lens. Mate, it's an object being tracked by multiple planes with multiple cameras (more footage of this incident on youtube), two of which are shown in the video (ir and visual). The only reason it's being tracked at all is because they had RADAR lock on it, as indicated by the two vertical lines encompassing it on the display. The reason it appears to be 'stuck' to the view is because the tracking system is that good. Spend 5 minutes picking up a cursory understanding of a topic before confidently stating outright silliness. Here, see another one and watch how the RADAR symbology works when the pilot gets a lock. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Fd6ssvcBoM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Fd6ssvcBoM