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The only form of harassment mentioned in the article is allocating employees to positions they don't like. And from the description of the positions, none seems

by cm2187 7y ago

The only form of harassment mentioned in the article is allocating employees to positions they don't like. And from the description of the positions, none seems particularly terrible. It's not like if they were asked to clean up a septic tank. And as others mentioned here, it doesn't seem to be a particularly high suicide rate for France either.

maeln 7y ago
This article doesn't go much in detail. A lot of French article describe better what happen. France Telecom became a case study in a lot of management classes of what not to do. They even not really secretive about it, upper management even made classes for the middle management to teach them how to make someone quit. Giving bullshit/meaningless task, putting people in position were they had nothing to do but sit on a chair all day, enforcing dumb rules very strictly and having in general a very aggressive communication. A lot of people don't realize how hard these things can be. Having nothing to do or only meaningless tasks makes you depressed really quickly. Having suffered it for 2 years, I think most people don't understand how difficult it can be.
- sgift 7y ago
  > A lot of people don't realize how hard these things can be. Having nothing to do or only meaningless tasks makes you depressed really quickly. Having suffered it for 2 years, I think most people don't understand how difficult it can be. Yeah. Most people think "what's so bad about free time at work" - Sure, a few days of nothing to do sounds great .. but then the days become weeks, then month and every time you ask "Nope. Nothing to do." and at some point the realization sinks in that this is what you will do a good part of your waking day until the end of your life if you do not get out there. But you have liabilities. People depend on you. You cannot just quit, right? You have to suck it up? And so on. It's easy to say "quit being dramatic" if you haven't been affected by it.
  - cm2187 7y ago
    Or, you'd rather hang to this sweet "job for life no matter what" contract nevertheless.

by cm2187 7y ago

maeln 7y ago

This article doesn't go much in detail. A lot of French article describe better what happen. France Telecom became a case study in a lot of management classes of what not to do. They even not really secretive about it, upper management even made classes for the middle management to teach them how to make someone quit. Giving bullshit/meaningless task, putting people in position were they had nothing to do but sit on a chair all day, enforcing dumb rules very strictly and having in general a very aggressive communication. A lot of people don't realize how hard these things can be. Having nothing to do or only meaningless tasks makes you depressed really quickly. Having suffered it for 2 years, I think most people don't understand how difficult it can be.

sgift 7y ago
> A lot of people don't realize how hard these things can be. Having nothing to do or only meaningless tasks makes you depressed really quickly. Having suffered it for 2 years, I think most people don't understand how difficult it can be. Yeah. Most people think "what's so bad about free time at work" - Sure, a few days of nothing to do sounds great .. but then the days become weeks, then month and every time you ask "Nope. Nothing to do." and at some point the realization sinks in that this is what you will do a good part of your waking day until the end of your life if you do not get out there. But you have liabilities. People depend on you. You cannot just quit, right? You have to suck it up? And so on. It's easy to say "quit being dramatic" if you haven't been affected by it.
- cm2187 7y ago
  Or, you'd rather hang to this sweet "job for life no matter what" contract nevertheless.