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> We see this in action in the "Go Fast" and "Gimbal" videos released by the Pentagon that supposedly show UFOs. I don't believe these videos show anything real

> We see this in action in the "Go Fast" and "Gimbal" videos released by the Pentagon that supposedly show UFOs. I don't believe these videos show anything really out of the ordinary at all, and certainly nothing definitively so, and there has been some very good forensic analysis done on them already that reinforces this point of view. Nick West, in particular, has really done compelling work on this topic. Some of his videos are posted below and are worth consideration. The third video that was released, the one of the infamous "Tic Tac" from 2004, looks like, well a Tic Tac, at least to me. Regardless, they all show FLIR footage taken by Hornets' targeting pods.

ganzuul 7y ago
My theory is that many of the observations are ball lightning maintained and transported by radar. If so, studying the phenomena could have fantastic implications for nuclear fusion, which would make the investment well worth it. The metallic cigar shapes could, within the realm of possibility, be free electrons in a similar toroidal path, giving the appearance of a shiny surface. That in turn could perhaps shield our spacecraft in the future.
libertine 7y ago
The odd part is the radar-visual claims, and why would someone like Navy Cmdr. David Fravor (who claimed to have visual contact and was in pursuit of the object), would throw all of his legacy out the window, all for a lie that could easily be debunked. I find it hard to pin that the US Navy pilots aren't as sharp as we perceived to be, or that these actors had something to gain with this, or if it was easily debunked why weren't the actors involved briefed on what it was.
- alluro2 7y ago
  I agree - and with this kind of stuff, somehow we're prone to looking at the government like it's a perfectly running black box, with an all-reaching, all-encompassing power and control over information. But if you look at these pieces of information that have gone out - "something is being reported by our people, we don't actually know what is it, people are talking about it to the outside as well, we thought we add some equipment to see if we can find out more" - it seems much more realistic to me, and much more in line with inefficient, clumsy and sometimes incompetent government that it is...

ganzuul 7y ago

My theory is that many of the observations are ball lightning maintained and transported by radar. If so, studying the phenomena could have fantastic implications for nuclear fusion, which would make the investment well worth it. The metallic cigar shapes could, within the realm of possibility, be free electrons in a similar toroidal path, giving the appearance of a shiny surface. That in turn could perhaps shield our spacecraft in the future.

libertine 7y ago

The odd part is the radar-visual claims, and why would someone like Navy Cmdr. David Fravor (who claimed to have visual contact and was in pursuit of the object), would throw all of his legacy out the window, all for a lie that could easily be debunked. I find it hard to pin that the US Navy pilots aren't as sharp as we perceived to be, or that these actors had something to gain with this, or if it was easily debunked why weren't the actors involved briefed on what it was.

alluro2 7y ago
I agree - and with this kind of stuff, somehow we're prone to looking at the government like it's a perfectly running black box, with an all-reaching, all-encompassing power and control over information. But if you look at these pieces of information that have gone out - "something is being reported by our people, we don't actually know what is it, people are talking about it to the outside as well, we thought we add some equipment to see if we can find out more" - it seems much more realistic to me, and much more in line with inefficient, clumsy and sometimes incompetent government that it is...