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I love Pinboard the way I love no other digital product I’ve ever owned or interacted with. If anyone wants to take lessons for the future of what digital produ

by sprafa 7y ago

I love Pinboard the way I love no other digital product I’ve ever owned or interacted with. If anyone wants to take lessons for the future of what digital products could and should be, they should learn their lessons from Pinboard. It’s a delightful and wonderful service.

idlewords 7y ago
This is extremely nice to read; thank you!
- x0x0 7y ago
  I love that you don't randomly fuck with the UI I've already learned for shits & giggles. I'm not saying it's perfect; just I've already learned to do my work and now I want to pay attention to other things. I despise how the idiots at google and apple can't live without randomly permuting the android, gsuite, ios, and macos UIs all the time. There is a pending android 9 update on my phone, and ios 12 on my ipad. Not today, Satan, not today!
  - liendolucas 7y ago
    I haven't used Pinboard but you're damn right about this. Is like the supermarket, one day you find chocolates in one isle next week chocolates are in a completely different isle only that messing around with the UI infuriates users.
    - kraigie 7y ago
      >Is like the supermarket, one day you find chocolates in one isle next week chocolates are in a completely different isle only The supermarkets do that because it increases sales. While your hunting around you will see other products and between old chocolate location and new choclate location will be some products that people often purchase with choclate. You might be annoyed but you will more likely give them more revenue. I wonder if the same is true 2ith ux design?
  - ahartmetz 7y ago
    This has been discussed around here - if you have permanent UX staff, what are they going to do to justify their existence and how do they get promotions? They have to change things.
    - valiant55 7y ago
      This is an interesting observation. I worked for Google for a number of years, and while the UX staff was light, our (relatively) small product did have dedicated staff. That being said, Google's org is pretty fluid, there should be plenty of new projects in need of UX that you don't have to mess with old projects.
      - kkarakk 7y ago
        I wanna know who the UX people are on Youtube. I never understand what is the point of half the changes and have started to dislike the mobile app enough to actively avoid browsing for videos Doesn't help that the recommender algorithm seems to surface completely random 8 year old videos in the "recommended" feed now
        ahartmetz 7y ago
        On Android, NewPipe is much better than the Youtube app.
        aasasd 7y ago
        Hey, people now discover excellent videos through the eight-year-old recommendations: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obinHg70l8U https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obinHg70l8U https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50vL1uAXn7s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50vL1uAXn7s
    - tobr 7y ago
      I think you can switch “UX staff” for anyone who works with developing the product, rather than maintaining it as it is. What is a developer going to do if the product is already done?
  - aasasd 7y ago
    > pending android 9 update So that's who actually receives updates to Android. The one dude who doesn't appreciate them.
  - knd775 7y ago
    Hopefully you don't mind having highly vulnerable devices, then.
  - uhhhhhhh 7y ago
    If only reddit understood this
  - wlesieutre 7y ago
    For what it’s worth, iOS 12 didn’t change that much. The main focus was performance, especially on older hardware. The most visible change might be notifications, which are grouped by app and added a convenient option to revoke something’s notification privileges without digging through Settings.
  - mcovey 7y ago
    I love the stable UI too, because I've applied my own custom CSS to it, and written a userscript to give myself some extra functionality I want, like some highlighted tags in the popup window, and it never breaks. Even without any tweaks, it works, and that's way more important than being pretty (to Pinboard's userbase of nerds at least). Usually UI refreshes come with features being broken or dropped altogether.
- floatingatoll 7y ago
  Thanks for staying awesome :)
thecrumb 7y ago
Yes. No UI overhaul. No "improvements". It. Just. Works.

by sprafa 7y ago

idlewords 7y ago

This is extremely nice to read; thank you!

x0x0 7y ago
I love that you don't randomly fuck with the UI I've already learned for shits & giggles. I'm not saying it's perfect; just I've already learned to do my work and now I want to pay attention to other things. I despise how the idiots at google and apple can't live without randomly permuting the android, gsuite, ios, and macos UIs all the time. There is a pending android 9 update on my phone, and ios 12 on my ipad. Not today, Satan, not today!
- liendolucas 7y ago
  I haven't used Pinboard but you're damn right about this. Is like the supermarket, one day you find chocolates in one isle next week chocolates are in a completely different isle only that messing around with the UI infuriates users.
  - kraigie 7y ago
    >Is like the supermarket, one day you find chocolates in one isle next week chocolates are in a completely different isle only The supermarkets do that because it increases sales. While your hunting around you will see other products and between old chocolate location and new choclate location will be some products that people often purchase with choclate. You might be annoyed but you will more likely give them more revenue. I wonder if the same is true 2ith ux design?
- ahartmetz 7y ago
  This has been discussed around here - if you have permanent UX staff, what are they going to do to justify their existence and how do they get promotions? They have to change things.
  - valiant55 7y ago
    This is an interesting observation. I worked for Google for a number of years, and while the UX staff was light, our (relatively) small product did have dedicated staff. That being said, Google's org is pretty fluid, there should be plenty of new projects in need of UX that you don't have to mess with old projects.
    - kkarakk 7y ago
      I wanna know who the UX people are on Youtube. I never understand what is the point of half the changes and have started to dislike the mobile app enough to actively avoid browsing for videos Doesn't help that the recommender algorithm seems to surface completely random 8 year old videos in the "recommended" feed now
      - ahartmetz 7y ago
        On Android, NewPipe is much better than the Youtube app.
      - aasasd 7y ago
        Hey, people now discover excellent videos through the eight-year-old recommendations: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obinHg70l8U https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obinHg70l8U https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50vL1uAXn7s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50vL1uAXn7s
  - tobr 7y ago
    I think you can switch “UX staff” for anyone who works with developing the product, rather than maintaining it as it is. What is a developer going to do if the product is already done?
- aasasd 7y ago
  > pending android 9 update So that's who actually receives updates to Android. The one dude who doesn't appreciate them.
- knd775 7y ago
  Hopefully you don't mind having highly vulnerable devices, then.
- uhhhhhhh 7y ago
  If only reddit understood this
- wlesieutre 7y ago
  For what it’s worth, iOS 12 didn’t change that much. The main focus was performance, especially on older hardware. The most visible change might be notifications, which are grouped by app and added a convenient option to revoke something’s notification privileges without digging through Settings.
- mcovey 7y ago
  I love the stable UI too, because I've applied my own custom CSS to it, and written a userscript to give myself some extra functionality I want, like some highlighted tags in the popup window, and it never breaks. Even without any tweaks, it works, and that's way more important than being pretty (to Pinboard's userbase of nerds at least). Usually UI refreshes come with features being broken or dropped altogether.
floatingatoll 7y ago
Thanks for staying awesome :)

thecrumb 7y ago

Yes. No UI overhaul. No "improvements". It. Just. Works.