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What if rather than doom we get global tropical paradise

floatrock 7y ago
What if new tropical paradises means the current tropical paradises become uninhabitable, creating more forced migrations that make the syrian refugee crisis look like a quiet day on the canadian border, and the lands that become your "tropical paradise" actually are the grain belts of the world, which can no longer grow all the food a continuously expanding global population demands? Look at all the flooding in the midwest this year -- despite dams on every major river, we've still had record-breaking field inundation and crop failure. Is that the new normal paradise you're describing?
- Skunkleton 7y ago
  > What if new tropical paradises means the current tropical paradises become uninhabitable. And what if the shift happens so fast there isnt enough time for all of the tropical plant life to migrate with the temperature changes?
- zaroth 7y ago
  Wheat prices don’t seem to be particular affected; https://www.macrotrends.net/2534/wheat-prices-historical-chart-data https://www.macrotrends.net/2534/wheat-prices-historical-cha...
  - briantakita 7y ago
    We also have financialization of markets, which allows manipulation. The USDA has also made some controversial assessments with readjustments of the corn production forecast. Currently, 31 million corn acres are deemed unplanted this year. One can read the trends to see the writing on the wall... https://www.agweb.com/article/crunch-time-31-million-corn-acres-uplanted-naa-anna-lisa-laca/ https://www.agweb.com/article/crunch-time-31-million-corn-ac... Gold & Silver have also been kept artificially low & there is incoming indictments of market rigging. I add this as an example of how financialization distorts the pricing information flow. https://www.marketwatch.com/story/merrill-lynch-fined-by-doj-cftc-for-spoofing-in-precious-metals-futures-2019-06-25 https://www.marketwatch.com/story/merrill-lynch-fined-by-doj...
mempko 7y ago
About 80 percent of bugs have died in Peurto Rico rain forest attributed to global warming. We are in the 6th mass extinction. It won't be a tropical paradise without bugs, birds, animals, and the ability to grow food.
- robbyt 7y ago
  Source?
  - giougreoiu 7y ago
    https://lmgtfy.com/?q=insect+extinction+puerto+rico https://lmgtfy.com/?q=insect+extinction+puerto+rico
twright 7y ago
It will still be hot, then there's wet-bulb temperatures to worry about [1]. [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wet-bulb_temperature https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wet-bulb_temperature
sjg007 7y ago
Mosquitos of death then... or death at the wet bulb temp.
opportune 7y ago
Maybe many centuries after the upcoming massive population displacement that threatens to seriously destabilize the world politically and economically
Igelau 7y ago
The "Coffee Belt" gets upgraded to the "Coffee Corset".

What if new tropical paradises means the current tropical paradises become uninhabitable, creating more forced migrations that make the syrian refugee crisis look like a quiet day on the canadian border, and the lands that become your "tropical paradise" actually are the grain belts of the world, which can no longer grow all the food a continuously expanding global population demands? Look at all the flooding in the midwest this year -- despite dams on every major river, we've still had record-breaking field inundation and crop failure. Is that the new normal paradise you're describing?

Skunkleton 7y ago
> What if new tropical paradises means the current tropical paradises become uninhabitable. And what if the shift happens so fast there isnt enough time for all of the tropical plant life to migrate with the temperature changes?
zaroth 7y ago
Wheat prices don’t seem to be particular affected; https://www.macrotrends.net/2534/wheat-prices-historical-chart-data https://www.macrotrends.net/2534/wheat-prices-historical-cha...
- briantakita 7y ago
  We also have financialization of markets, which allows manipulation. The USDA has also made some controversial assessments with readjustments of the corn production forecast. Currently, 31 million corn acres are deemed unplanted this year. One can read the trends to see the writing on the wall... https://www.agweb.com/article/crunch-time-31-million-corn-acres-uplanted-naa-anna-lisa-laca/ https://www.agweb.com/article/crunch-time-31-million-corn-ac... Gold & Silver have also been kept artificially low & there is incoming indictments of market rigging. I add this as an example of how financialization distorts the pricing information flow. https://www.marketwatch.com/story/merrill-lynch-fined-by-doj-cftc-for-spoofing-in-precious-metals-futures-2019-06-25 https://www.marketwatch.com/story/merrill-lynch-fined-by-doj...

mempko 7y ago

About 80 percent of bugs have died in Peurto Rico rain forest attributed to global warming. We are in the 6th mass extinction. It won't be a tropical paradise without bugs, birds, animals, and the ability to grow food.

robbyt 7y ago
Source?
- giougreoiu 7y ago
  https://lmgtfy.com/?q=insect+extinction+puerto+rico https://lmgtfy.com/?q=insect+extinction+puerto+rico

twright 7y ago

It will still be hot, then there's wet-bulb temperatures to worry about [1]. [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wet-bulb_temperature https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wet-bulb_temperature

sjg007 7y ago

Mosquitos of death then... or death at the wet bulb temp.

opportune 7y ago

Maybe many centuries after the upcoming massive population displacement that threatens to seriously destabilize the world politically and economically

Igelau 7y ago

The "Coffee Belt" gets upgraded to the "Coffee Corset".