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If TextMate 2.0 is not released soon (or doesn't meet expectations), MacroMates is in trouble.

by Rauchg 16y ago

sjs 16y ago
Could be, but a lot of people who wanted more than TM 1.5 provides have already gone to Emacs or vim.
flyosity 16y ago
And by "MacroMates" you mean the singular developer who works on it who has probably already made a small fortune from TextMate 1.x licenses and has said a few times that TextMate development is a "hobby". I don't think he's in any sort of trouble.
- frou_dh 16y ago
  IIRC he did get stressed out by expectation and some blog nastiness, and at another time made a somewhat rash commitment to TM2 being a free upgrade. Perhaps Duke-Nukem status is finally accepted but I don't think things have always been so chilled.
holman 16y ago
Kod is pretty far away from being a "usable" editor (in its current state), so TextMate 2 isn't nearing imminent doom. Besides, there was a blog post about TM2 nearing completion, which means it should ship sometime around Summer 2008. loljk I'm pretty excited about Kod in general though; the design has a real great start, and the scripting foundations he's building seem really interesting. Open sourcing it should (hopefully) speed it along to reliability and completeness sooner rather than later, too. Will be a fun product to watch.
bnycum 16y ago
I really wish people would stop complaining about TextMate 2.0, just because it's been talked about doesn't mean the current version stopped working or lost features. I'm a daily TextMate user for nearly 6 years and it has never once not met my expectations. It's first app I install on a new machine/install. Kod is a great start so far, but still has a ways to catch up. I wish the developer the best and that it works out for him. Hope it doesn't turn out like Smultron (now Fraise).
- jordanlev 16y ago
  Agreed (about textmate always meeting expectations) -- except for lack of chunked undo :)
  - nestlequ1k 16y ago
    And the fact that it crashes every window when opening a file more than a meg. Or that it doesnt detect git changes (have to restart the app). And it doesn't have splitscreen. Do you people just have supremely low expectations?
- melvinram 16y ago
  Granted it's a one of the most used software on my laptop, it's definitely not at the "never once not met my expectations" level. I don't think I have super high expectations either... I want soft-wrap to happen properly. I could go on with list of needs but it's pointless. I've given up hope that there will be ever an update and learnt to live with v1.x. However, that's just settling. As soon as I find something better, I'm gone. I bought Espresso with the hope that supporting that would encourage a lot of development but MacRabbit has been pretty slow on the improvement side as well (as shown by the sparsity on their blog http://macrabbit.com/blog/ http://macrabbit.com/blog/) so I've had to make do with TM since it feels better and more natural than Espresso for now. Ahhrrgg <sigh>
  - mynameisraj 16y ago
    Unfortunately, MacRabbit won't be updating Espresso until the first half of 2011 (probably 4-5 months). See: http://twitter.com/#!/espressoapp/status/18041354806370304 http://twitter.com/#!/espressoapp/status/18041354806370304
    - juddlyon 16y ago
      Yuck! I really like Espresso but the lack of momentum and Sugars forced me to TM. If Panic could create a TM to Coda migration path for those of us not interested in Emacs or Vim, they could snag a ton of customers. A way to port bundles and to turn off the dreamweaveresque portions of the app and they'll have my money. They actually ship software or at least keep people in the loop.
tsycho 16y ago
Another good alternative is Redcar

If TextMate 2.0 is not released soon (or doesn't meet expectations), MacroMates is in trouble.

by Rauchg 16y ago

If TextMate 2.0 is not released soon (or doesn't meet expectations), MacroMates is in trouble.

sjs 16y ago

Could be, but a lot of people who wanted more than TM 1.5 provides have already gone to Emacs or vim.

flyosity 16y ago

And by "MacroMates" you mean the singular developer who works on it who has probably already made a small fortune from TextMate 1.x licenses and has said a few times that TextMate development is a "hobby". I don't think he's in any sort of trouble.

frou_dh 16y ago
IIRC he did get stressed out by expectation and some blog nastiness, and at another time made a somewhat rash commitment to TM2 being a free upgrade. Perhaps Duke-Nukem status is finally accepted but I don't think things have always been so chilled.

holman 16y ago

Kod is pretty far away from being a "usable" editor (in its current state), so TextMate 2 isn't nearing imminent doom. Besides, there was a blog post about TM2 nearing completion, which means it should ship sometime around Summer 2008. loljk I'm pretty excited about Kod in general though; the design has a real great start, and the scripting foundations he's building seem really interesting. Open sourcing it should (hopefully) speed it along to reliability and completeness sooner rather than later, too. Will be a fun product to watch.

bnycum 16y ago

I really wish people would stop complaining about TextMate 2.0, just because it's been talked about doesn't mean the current version stopped working or lost features. I'm a daily TextMate user for nearly 6 years and it has never once not met my expectations. It's first app I install on a new machine/install. Kod is a great start so far, but still has a ways to catch up. I wish the developer the best and that it works out for him. Hope it doesn't turn out like Smultron (now Fraise).

jordanlev 16y ago
Agreed (about textmate always meeting expectations) -- except for lack of chunked undo :)
- nestlequ1k 16y ago
  And the fact that it crashes every window when opening a file more than a meg. Or that it doesnt detect git changes (have to restart the app). And it doesn't have splitscreen. Do you people just have supremely low expectations?
melvinram 16y ago
Granted it's a one of the most used software on my laptop, it's definitely not at the "never once not met my expectations" level. I don't think I have super high expectations either... I want soft-wrap to happen properly. I could go on with list of needs but it's pointless. I've given up hope that there will be ever an update and learnt to live with v1.x. However, that's just settling. As soon as I find something better, I'm gone. I bought Espresso with the hope that supporting that would encourage a lot of development but MacRabbit has been pretty slow on the improvement side as well (as shown by the sparsity on their blog http://macrabbit.com/blog/ http://macrabbit.com/blog/) so I've had to make do with TM since it feels better and more natural than Espresso for now. Ahhrrgg <sigh>
- mynameisraj 16y ago
  Unfortunately, MacRabbit won't be updating Espresso until the first half of 2011 (probably 4-5 months). See: http://twitter.com/#!/espressoapp/status/18041354806370304 http://twitter.com/#!/espressoapp/status/18041354806370304
  - juddlyon 16y ago
    Yuck! I really like Espresso but the lack of momentum and Sugars forced me to TM. If Panic could create a TM to Coda migration path for those of us not interested in Emacs or Vim, they could snag a ton of customers. A way to port bundles and to turn off the dreamweaveresque portions of the app and they'll have my money. They actually ship software or at least keep people in the loop.

tsycho 16y ago

Another good alternative is Redcar