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What about outsourcing to Russia when it becomes a reasonable place for foreign firms to do business? It seems like that wave is yet to come.

by dkarl 16y ago

natnat 16y ago
Russia is problematic in that its government is notoriously corrupt and controlled by the mob and Russian business interests, but its workers are not poor (and therefore cheap) enough for foreign investors to be able to overlook Russia's political problems.
- dkarl 16y ago
  Even for higher-level jobs like engineering or software engineering? I don't imagine call centers popping up in Russia, more like contract engineering firms that do work for American companies. Or is that possible and happening already in the current climate? Edit/PS: The political problems are exactly why I think the wave is yet to come.
- jscore 16y ago
  "Russia is problematic in that its government is notoriously corrupt and controlled by the mob and Russian business interests, " Don't listen to Western media. I'm sure Russian government would be supportive of anything that provides jobs to the working class.
  - aberkowitz 16y ago
    I'd advise that you read about the demise of Yukos, formerly one of Russia's largest companies.
    - geoka9 16y ago
      A good case in point. It is illustrative that the demise was initiated by the arrest of its owner, who was the only Russian oligarch who "came clean" by publicly acknowledging the corruption of the Russia's top businesses and state, and called for transparency in both.
  - geoka9 16y ago
    Russia's government only seems to be (practically) supportive of opportunities for the "siloviks" clan members. A quintessential plutarchy. (I am a Russian national).
dkarl 16y ago
I'm not sure why I'm getting downvoted.... I thought I made a stupid but checking salaries here(1) and here(2) (first Google results that popped up) it looks like American software engineers make almost three times as much as Russian software engineers. It's not as big a ratio as India, but wouldn't it be enough to attract work from American companies if the business climate was right? (1) http://www.payscale.com/research/US/Job=Software_Engineer_%2F_Developer_%2F_Programmer/Salary http://www.payscale.com/research/US/Job=Software_Engineer_%2... (2) http://www.payscale.com/research/RU/Job=Software_Engineer_%2f_Developer_%2f_Programmer/Salary http://www.payscale.com/research/RU/Job=Software_Engineer_%2...

What about outsourcing to Russia when it becomes a reasonable place for foreign firms to do business? It seems like that wave is yet to come.

by dkarl 16y ago

What about outsourcing to Russia when it becomes a reasonable place for foreign firms to do business? It seems like that wave is yet to come.

natnat 16y ago

Russia is problematic in that its government is notoriously corrupt and controlled by the mob and Russian business interests, but its workers are not poor (and therefore cheap) enough for foreign investors to be able to overlook Russia's political problems.

dkarl 16y ago
Even for higher-level jobs like engineering or software engineering? I don't imagine call centers popping up in Russia, more like contract engineering firms that do work for American companies. Or is that possible and happening already in the current climate? Edit/PS: The political problems are exactly why I think the wave is yet to come.
jscore 16y ago
"Russia is problematic in that its government is notoriously corrupt and controlled by the mob and Russian business interests, " Don't listen to Western media. I'm sure Russian government would be supportive of anything that provides jobs to the working class.
- aberkowitz 16y ago
  I'd advise that you read about the demise of Yukos, formerly one of Russia's largest companies.
  - geoka9 16y ago
    A good case in point. It is illustrative that the demise was initiated by the arrest of its owner, who was the only Russian oligarch who "came clean" by publicly acknowledging the corruption of the Russia's top businesses and state, and called for transparency in both.
- geoka9 16y ago
  Russia's government only seems to be (practically) supportive of opportunities for the "siloviks" clan members. A quintessential plutarchy. (I am a Russian national).

dkarl 16y ago

I'm not sure why I'm getting downvoted.... I thought I made a stupid but checking salaries here(1) and here(2) (first Google results that popped up) it looks like American software engineers make almost three times as much as Russian software engineers. It's not as big a ratio as India, but wouldn't it be enough to attract work from American companies if the business climate was right? (1) http://www.payscale.com/research/US/Job=Software_Engineer_%2F_Developer_%2F_Programmer/Salary http://www.payscale.com/research/US/Job=Software_Engineer_%2... (2) http://www.payscale.com/research/RU/Job=Software_Engineer_%2f_Developer_%2f_Programmer/Salary http://www.payscale.com/research/RU/Job=Software_Engineer_%2...