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I genuinely love my Touchbar. It's an extension of my macbook. I use it to show my active TODO, time and date, when I am on break and soon current calendar eve

by nikivi 7y ago

I genuinely love my Touchbar. It's an extension of my macbook. I use it to show my active TODO, time and date, when I am on break and soon current calendar event running + Karabiner profile. https://github.com/nikitavoloboev/my-mac-os/tree/master/btt https://github.com/nikitavoloboev/my-mac-os/tree/master/btt People who like to hate on it, didn't invest time in learning that you can program it to show what you want. And as for physical keys, with Karabiner, there is no need for those keys as they are too far away from home row anyway.

dmitriid 7y ago
> People who like to hate on it, didn't invest time in learning that you can program it to show what you want. I already program different things most of my time. Why tale away my convenience (aka part of keyboard) and make me program something on top of what I'm already programming? Three years on Touch Bar is still a solution in search of a compelling problem.
addicted 7y ago
I mean, you’re basically using the touchbar as a secondary screen. Which is, to be honest, a much better use of the touchbar than anything else I’ve seen. But it still doesn’t change the fact that it’s not a great input mechanism. Your usage, however, makes me wonder if Apple would have been better off promoting it as a secondary monitoring screen, which has Touch capabilities, as opposed to primarily an input mechanism. Of course, that brings up the question why it couldn’t be a bar on the actual screen your looking at, or if you don’t want it to be omnipresent something that comes up with a KB shortcut, but I guess there is some value in a monitoring screen that is visible at the nod of the head. I especially like the idea of putting your current active task. It can be a nice reminder on doing a fairly passive action, such as tilting your head, as opposed to a more active keyboard press.
cujo 7y ago
I love to hate on it, because it is impossible to "program it to show what I want". I want keys I can feel. I want to not silently trigger whatever goddamn touchbar "button" because one of my fingers grazes over it. I want to be able to hit the appropriate "button" by touch. "And as for physical keys, with Karabiner, there is no need for those keys as they are too far away from home row anyway." Or you know, we could just have the physical keys. So maybe slow your roll on how all of the haters just didn't "invest the time". Sometimes stuff doesn't work for people and it's not a learning curve issue. I can appreciate that it may work for some folks. Maybe you should appreciate that it doesn't work for others.
Marsymars 7y ago
> People who like to hate on it, didn't invest time in learning that you can program it to show what you want. How much time investment is required? I inadvertently spent a month travelling with a Touchbar MacBook, and it only took me a few days to get it configured for all my uses, and it was fine. However, when I switched back to a non-Touchbar system, it felt like an immediate and significant upgrade in keyboard capability. (Plus the non-Touchbar systems are cheaper.)

by nikivi 7y ago

dmitriid 7y ago

> People who like to hate on it, didn't invest time in learning that you can program it to show what you want. I already program different things most of my time. Why tale away my convenience (aka part of keyboard) and make me program something on top of what I'm already programming? Three years on Touch Bar is still a solution in search of a compelling problem.

addicted 7y ago

I mean, you’re basically using the touchbar as a secondary screen. Which is, to be honest, a much better use of the touchbar than anything else I’ve seen. But it still doesn’t change the fact that it’s not a great input mechanism. Your usage, however, makes me wonder if Apple would have been better off promoting it as a secondary monitoring screen, which has Touch capabilities, as opposed to primarily an input mechanism. Of course, that brings up the question why it couldn’t be a bar on the actual screen your looking at, or if you don’t want it to be omnipresent something that comes up with a KB shortcut, but I guess there is some value in a monitoring screen that is visible at the nod of the head. I especially like the idea of putting your current active task. It can be a nice reminder on doing a fairly passive action, such as tilting your head, as opposed to a more active keyboard press.

cujo 7y ago

I love to hate on it, because it is impossible to "program it to show what I want". I want keys I can feel. I want to not silently trigger whatever goddamn touchbar "button" because one of my fingers grazes over it. I want to be able to hit the appropriate "button" by touch. "And as for physical keys, with Karabiner, there is no need for those keys as they are too far away from home row anyway." Or you know, we could just have the physical keys. So maybe slow your roll on how all of the haters just didn't "invest the time". Sometimes stuff doesn't work for people and it's not a learning curve issue. I can appreciate that it may work for some folks. Maybe you should appreciate that it doesn't work for others.

Marsymars 7y ago

> People who like to hate on it, didn't invest time in learning that you can program it to show what you want. How much time investment is required? I inadvertently spent a month travelling with a Touchbar MacBook, and it only took me a few days to get it configured for all my uses, and it was fine. However, when I switched back to a non-Touchbar system, it felt like an immediate and significant upgrade in keyboard capability. (Plus the non-Touchbar systems are cheaper.)