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> Well, no. I don't want to use a browser that is developed by an advertising company ... on an operating system developed by the exact same advertising compan

> Well, no. I don't want to use a browser that is developed by an advertising company ... on an operating system developed by the exact same advertising company?

coldpie 7y ago
If there was a viable competitor, I would consider using it. There isn't.
- ulfw 7y ago
  There is. You just don't want to spend the money or use the phones/tablets from said competitor.
  - coldpie 7y ago
    iOS is not a competitor for my needs.
  - Forbo 7y ago
    iOS doesn't allow you to use other browser engines.
  - jsgo 7y ago
    I'm personally a big fan of iOS, but coldpie's (and others in this thread) needs seem to be in third party browser capability that doesn't exist in iOS so with that, I wouldn't recommend it to them. I don't think it is a matter of spending money on competitor's devices so much as competitor's devices don't meet their needs.
    - silversconfused 7y ago
      It'd be acceptable if we could run code on it, as root, like we actually own it.
  - AsyncAwait 7y ago
    iOS doesn't allow anywhere near the level of customization that Android does, nor does it allow 3rd party browser engines at all, however there's Sailfish OS and maybe the Librem 5 soon.
- silversconfused 7y ago
  postmarketos is beginning to support cellular capabilities. You may not have to wait a whole lot longer.
cosmojg 7y ago
LineageOS[1] exists, and it may as well be a non-GNU mobile distribution of Linux with support for Android apps like Firefox. [1] https://lineageos.org/ https://lineageos.org/
- cmroanirgo 7y ago
  I've given up on custom ROMs. There's always only an extremely limited set of devices that are supported, and those devices are EOL rather too quickly, forcing us to use custom builds from someone not directly affiliated with the project. To be clear, not one of the Android devices I've purchased have ever had official support. I'm using a Samsung a8 at the moment. I hope the custom rom community finds a better mechanism for providing better device coverage.
  - redwards510 7y ago
    Custom ROMs are rarely developed for Samsung devices these days because Samsung locks the bootloader and makes everything extremely difficult. Buy a device that is more developer-friendly like a Nexus, Pixel or OnePlus and you'll see a much larger selection of custom ROMs.
    - jdofaz 7y ago
      The last Nexus was released 4 years ago. The two pixel models and the OnePlus 7 make 3 choices of currently manufactured models.
- jdofaz 7y ago
  Are you aware of a current model phone that is officially supported by lineageos?
  - dmitrygr 7y ago
    lineage always supports google devices (pixel)
    - 7y ago

> Well, no. I don't want to use a browser that is developed by an advertising company ... on an operating system developed by the exact same advertising company?

coldpie 7y ago

If there was a viable competitor, I would consider using it. There isn't.

ulfw 7y ago
There is. You just don't want to spend the money or use the phones/tablets from said competitor.
- coldpie 7y ago
  iOS is not a competitor for my needs.
- Forbo 7y ago
  iOS doesn't allow you to use other browser engines.
- jsgo 7y ago
  I'm personally a big fan of iOS, but coldpie's (and others in this thread) needs seem to be in third party browser capability that doesn't exist in iOS so with that, I wouldn't recommend it to them. I don't think it is a matter of spending money on competitor's devices so much as competitor's devices don't meet their needs.
  - silversconfused 7y ago
    It'd be acceptable if we could run code on it, as root, like we actually own it.
- AsyncAwait 7y ago
  iOS doesn't allow anywhere near the level of customization that Android does, nor does it allow 3rd party browser engines at all, however there's Sailfish OS and maybe the Librem 5 soon.
silversconfused 7y ago
postmarketos is beginning to support cellular capabilities. You may not have to wait a whole lot longer.

cosmojg 7y ago

LineageOS[1] exists, and it may as well be a non-GNU mobile distribution of Linux with support for Android apps like Firefox. [1] https://lineageos.org/ https://lineageos.org/

cmroanirgo 7y ago
I've given up on custom ROMs. There's always only an extremely limited set of devices that are supported, and those devices are EOL rather too quickly, forcing us to use custom builds from someone not directly affiliated with the project. To be clear, not one of the Android devices I've purchased have ever had official support. I'm using a Samsung a8 at the moment. I hope the custom rom community finds a better mechanism for providing better device coverage.
- redwards510 7y ago
  Custom ROMs are rarely developed for Samsung devices these days because Samsung locks the bootloader and makes everything extremely difficult. Buy a device that is more developer-friendly like a Nexus, Pixel or OnePlus and you'll see a much larger selection of custom ROMs.
  - jdofaz 7y ago
    The last Nexus was released 4 years ago. The two pixel models and the OnePlus 7 make 3 choices of currently manufactured models.
jdofaz 7y ago
Are you aware of a current model phone that is officially supported by lineageos?
- dmitrygr 7y ago
  lineage always supports google devices (pixel)
  - 7y ago