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About time. Traveling is killing the planet. One of major causes of climate change. We need to take it seriously. I'm glad France is willing to take a bold and
by blondie9x 7y ago
About time. Traveling is killing the planet. One of major causes of climate change. We need to take it seriously. I'm glad France is willing to take a bold and brave step to support the environment.
- safog 7y ago[Citation Needed]
- blondie9x 7y agohttps://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/27/climate/airplane-pollution-global-warming.html https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/27/climate/airplane-pollutio... https://www.vox.com/energy-and-environment/2019/1/11/18177118/airlines-climate-change- https://www.vox.com/energy-and-environment/2019/1/11/1817711... emissions-travel
- vuln 7y agoI can't believe I am living in an era that a "bold and brave step" is raising taxes. What a sad world we live in. I guess France and their leaders can sleep well knowing they have stifled the climate crisis. Pat yourself on the back France you "did something".
- Analemma_ 7y agoCarbon emissions are an externality cost. How do you propose properly accounting for that cost if not through taxes?
- raverbashing 7y agoYawn There are much worse polluters, sure, travel is a contribution to greenhouse gasses, but I guess fuck people for wanting to take a plane somewhere Though the tax is small, so this seems more like a money grab than anything else
- magduf 7y agoIf they use the money for improving or subsidizing train service, then that's a good thing because it's moving more travel to trains, which are far more ecological. If you really have a problem paying a paltry 1.5 Euros for a flight, then maybe you should be saving your money instead of taking trips.
- raverbashing 7y agoYes, as I said the tax is low enough to not bother most people
- rayiner 7y agoFlying is 5% of CO2 emissions.
- avip 7y agoI think it's less? < 1B [tCO2eq] out of > 40 global annual emission. But make it 5% to account for underresearched impact of stratospheric emission.
- pyrale 7y agoThis 5% is released by a small minority of people. What is interesting is not how much flying consumes, but how much of one's emissions is generated by flying.
- standardUser 7y agoBusiness travel is killing our planet. All the family vacations in the world can't compete with giant companies constantly shuttling thousands of employees all around the globe to attend meetings and conferences.
- rayiner 7y agoYuppies hunting for “experiences” is killing the planet. Leisure travel dwarfs business travel: https://www.statista.com/statistics/207103/forecasted-number-of-domestic-trips-in-the-us https://www.statista.com/statistics/207103/forecasted-number....
- standardUser 7y agoYou're using US statistics for some reason. Yes, Americans fly a lot. They have to visit family in a giant country with terrible rail travel options. That's why "the holidays" are far and away the busiest travel months in the US. Those trips aren't for whatever yuppie experiences you seem to look down on, but mostly to visit mom and dad. I'd like to know how many air miles are used globally for business versus leisure. But the larger point is that business travel is mostly pointless. You can attend a meeting remotely. You can't hug your mother remotely, or sit on the beaches of Tulum remotely.
- likpok 7y agohttps://www.investopedia.com/ask/answers/041315/how-much-revenue-airline-industry-comes-business-travelers-compared-leisure-travelers.asp https://www.investopedia.com/ask/answers/041315/how-much-rev... This appears to be global (but lacks a citation), and claims that business passengers are 12% of passengers.
- mayniac 7y agoLocked behind a paywall for me.
- TulliusCicero 7y agoTraveling is a part of why the world is more integrated and, likely, less violent than it used to be. People flying around is not just good for businesses and economies, people visiting other places is cultural exchange. Do you really want people to be more culturally isolated?